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Old 03-20-2012, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
How were your dues not automatically deducted like the rest of us? And, if you're an ALPA member, what differentiates you from the rest of us?
If they deferred the income to their 401K, the computer that does payroll did not with hold dues.

They owe it, but writing a check from after tax funds to cover deferred income is ever pleasant from a cash flow perspective.
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
FWIW, on my previous trip, the other guy and I kept track of the additional stuff we did to keep the operation running smoothly.

It was highly significant. I am not advocating any type of job action. I am merely stating that we pilots grease the wheels well beyond anything we're getting paid for, and the company would be remiss to think we don't know it.
I'm curious, like... what?
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
How were your dues not automatically deducted like the rest of us? And, if you're an ALPA member, what differentiates you from the rest of us?
Buzz,

You missed the rest of the e-mail. For people that put 90-100% of the profit sharing in the 401K there was a computer error in the Delta Payroll that FORGOT to deduct dues from your check. I never really paid much attention to what is dues payable/not. It's just like FICA - every dollar up to the max ($110,100) even if it's going in the 401K you still pay 6.2%. Over 110,100 you still pay 1.45% (no cap thanks to Bill Clinton's SS reform in 1993- the last one to FIX Social Security forever).
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Every CRj with better than mainline economics is 11 or 12 Delta pilots that don't hold jobs.

So, hypothetically, a friend of mine calls his Rep and it is suggested that perhaps DCI gets limited to 355, 71 to 76 seat jets, which is shrinkage. ... he's impressed enough to ask me about it. I'll gladly share my answer, "that's 1,200 Delta jobs, gone."

Helmet Fire ? Not at all. When it comes to protecting our careers and families proactive engagement is certainly worth the effort.

Folks, don't forget ... YOU PAY ALPA ... YOU PAY THESE GUYS, you are the BOSS, they work for YOU.

IMHO, we've got a great group of Reps and a terrible track record. It is hard to trust where this is going, but, if we do our part to hold them to a high standard, I think they'll deliver just fine.
Bar, the company may want that, to me that is 202 more 71+ seat jets than are currently on property. I would be floored if that passed unless it took care of all of the other section 1 loop holes, and even then that is a huge concession. I know how I would vote.

I heard that "story" too. I am not going to get a helmet fire over it,but if a deal like that came out I would be very vocal if the deal was as stated.
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
How were your dues not automatically deducted like the rest of us? And, if you're an ALPA member, what differentiates you from the rest of us?
I get that and both of those are good questions to ask, but, why are they collecting off of profit sharing? I thought they were under budget?
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'm curious, like... what?
My last trip ...

(1) Remind them that they had a jet sitting outside a gate
(2) Remind them that jet needed an air cart
(3) Remind them that another jet had no Maintenance sign off
(4) Remind them a TO alternate was required
(5) Remind them to have the gate close the flight so we could get our numbers, not once, not twice ... three times. While holding short of a runway, blocking a couple of other jets, with everyone burning this expensive Jet A.

Not complaining, we are a team. Captain reminded me to get back in VNAV once ... my response "thank you" and if we'd had the time I'd had bought the beverage of his choice.
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Bar, the company may want that, to me that is 202 more 71+ seat jets than are currently on property. I would be floored if that passed unless it took care of all of the other section 1 loop holes, and even then that is a huge concession. I know how I would vote.

I heard that "story" too. I am not going to get a helmet fire over it,but if a deal like that came out I would be very vocal if the deal was as stated.
I'm curious, so 355 70+ seaters in exchange for, 717s?
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'm curious, so 355 70+ seaters in exchange for, 717s?
No idea. It is someone's rumor only and as far as I can tell not based on anything concrete.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'm curious, so 355 70+ seaters in exchange for, 717s?
Who knows ... (not I) But, if given the choice, I'd rather get the new CRj 905 than the 717. It has better performance and better profit margins. Flying an airplane that makes money is a good thing for job security.

Management can buy all the RJ's it wants. We do not have to change scope for that to happen.
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Old 03-20-2012, 06:03 PM
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I'm curious, so 355 70+ seaters in exchange for, 717s?
$717 an hour for dc9b? That's got to be what you heard, because the other one is dumb.
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