Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-17-2012, 02:52 PM
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03-17-2012, 02:55 PM
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Sounds like a wet dream to most of us bottom pukes. The 2500-3000 numbers only remind of how many people mgmt wants to reduce our pilot rank if they could, as long as we don't fly too tired and crash or can't run a full schedule.
03-17-2012, 03:15 PM
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A divided group fails.
03-17-2012, 03:18 PM
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A few years ago I got reinstated the month before my training was scheduled to start. They made me go anyway, OE, fly the airplane less than one full month, then go back and retrain for my reinstatement.
Don't know if it's still the same, but it was up to the planners where they needed me most, even for just one month, no matter how stupid it seemed.
Don't know if it's still the same, but it was up to the planners where they needed me most, even for just one month, no matter how stupid it seemed.
I got training canceled two days prior a few years ago.
03-17-2012, 03:19 PM
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Great post. I was with you 100% until that last sentence. Not true for me... If I won the lottery tomorrow, I would not retire. I'd still be advocating just as strongly for restoration... because I do not compromise principles. But I still really enjoy flying and look forward to going to work. If I won that lottery I might drop a few trips though... 
03-17-2012, 03:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
Wee bit o' a rant...
Hired end of '88. Told on day one we'd all be Capt's in less than 5yrs. Thought, we'll see...
Flew with guys who spent years on the panel or smashed bags (vice furlough)... got my window seat in less than a year... spent next 9yrs in right seat of 727... felt very lucky.
Finally could upgrade after 13yrs (waited 'til 16yrs... 777 FO was awesome)... again, felt very lucky.
Don't really understand the beyotching about bids/ae's/res, etc., (especially from guys hired w/in the last four years). Seems like some people haven't really payed attention to what's been going on the past 20yrs, in this seniority based biz.
P.s., As I told my 2010 hire friend when he asked for advice on bidding an ae..."if your a relatively new hire and you don't want to go to training a lot, bid to be the most senior pilot on the most junior equipment you can hold. If you want to go to training a lot, do the opposite."
Last thought... unless Delta/DALPA decide they want to recapture their Scope/flying/brand identity, we are all pretty much finished.
Happy St. Paddy's Day
Boy you guys just don't get it - you are both right!
Every hiring cycle has relative winners and losers - hired at the beginning of a cycle - Luck O' the Irish. Hired at the end of cycle - Free system tour for 5 years.
It happened in 1991, 2001, and I guess 2010. Both the 1991 and 2001 guys got the bonus of Furloughs, and the 1991 guys a "B" scale to boot, so the recent hires are not exactly breaking new ground with multiple displacements. The 1991 hires had Western and Repulic mergers to deal with, the 2001 hires had 911, and the recent new hires have the DAL/NW merger.
As to Livin the Dream's point about beyothching, he is absolutely correct - guys are beyothching quite a bit - the only thing is that guys have always beyothched this much - its just that now we have the inter-web which acts as a loudspeaker/amplifier etc.
Thats my 1 Guinness down - ??? to go, St Patty's day peacemaking post!
Scoop
Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
Wee bit o' a rant...
Hired end of '88. Told on day one we'd all be Capt's in less than 5yrs. Thought, we'll see...
Flew with guys who spent years on the panel or smashed bags (vice furlough)... got my window seat in less than a year... spent next 9yrs in right seat of 727... felt very lucky.
Finally could upgrade after 13yrs (waited 'til 16yrs... 777 FO was awesome)... again, felt very lucky.
Don't really understand the beyotching about bids/ae's/res, etc., (especially from guys hired w/in the last four years). Seems like some people haven't really payed attention to what's been going on the past 20yrs, in this seniority based biz.
P.s., As I told my 2010 hire friend when he asked for advice on bidding an ae..."if your a relatively new hire and you don't want to go to training a lot, bid to be the most senior pilot on the most junior equipment you can hold. If you want to go to training a lot, do the opposite."
Last thought... unless Delta/DALPA decide they want to recapture their Scope/flying/brand identity, we are all pretty much finished.
Happy St. Paddy's Day
Boy you guys just don't get it - you are both right!
Every hiring cycle has relative winners and losers - hired at the beginning of a cycle - Luck O' the Irish. Hired at the end of cycle - Free system tour for 5 years.
It happened in 1991, 2001, and I guess 2010. Both the 1991 and 2001 guys got the bonus of Furloughs, and the 1991 guys a "B" scale to boot, so the recent hires are not exactly breaking new ground with multiple displacements. The 1991 hires had Western and Repulic mergers to deal with, the 2001 hires had 911, and the recent new hires have the DAL/NW merger.
As to Livin the Dream's point about beyothching, he is absolutely correct - guys are beyothching quite a bit - the only thing is that guys have always beyothched this much - its just that now we have the inter-web which acts as a loudspeaker/amplifier etc.
Thats my 1 Guinness down - ??? to go, St Patty's day peacemaking post!
Scoop
Scoop, great post!
The Junior guys always think the senior guys got it made, the senior guys always think the Junior guys cry too much.
It has always been thus. Always has been, always will be!
So Everyone, just S-T-F-U and get to drinking!
It's St. Patty's Day for Christ's sake! Give it a rest for a day. We ALL got screwed in the Bankruptcy. All of us, so hand me another Guinness!
I'm on number 4 right now, and I only have 8 more in the fridge, it could get ugly if I run out before SNL!
Scoop, if you are in the NRT sports bar later next month, I'm buying.
03-17-2012, 03:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
Wee bit o' a rant...
Hired end of '88. Told on day one we'd all be Capt's in less than 5yrs. Thought, we'll see...
Flew with guys who spent years on the panel or smashed bags (vice furlough)... got my window seat in less than a year... spent next 9yrs in right seat of 727... felt very lucky.
Finally could upgrade after 13yrs (waited 'til 16yrs... 777 FO was awesome)... again, felt very lucky.
Don't really understand the beyotching about bids/ae's/res, etc., (especially from guys hired w/in the last four years). Seems like some people haven't really payed attention to what's been going on the past 20yrs, in this seniority based biz.
P.s., As I told my 2010 hire friend when he asked for advice on bidding an ae..."if your a relatively new hire and you don't want to go to training a lot, bid to be the most senior pilot on the most junior equipment you can hold. If you want to go to training a lot, do the opposite."
Last thought... unless Delta/DALPA decide they want to recapture their Scope/flying/brand identity, we are all pretty much finished.
Happy St. Paddy's Day
Boy you guys just don't get it - you are both right!
Every hiring cycle has relative winners and losers - hired at the beginning of a cycle - Luck O' the Irish. Hired at the end of cycle - Free system tour for 5 years.
It happened in 1991, 2001, and I guess 2010. Both the 1991 and 2001 guys got the bonus of Furloughs, and the 1991 guys a "B" scale to boot, so the recent hires are not exactly breaking new ground with multiple displacements. The 1991 hires had Western and Repulic mergers to deal with, the 2001 hires had 911, and the recent new hires have the DAL/NW merger.
As to Livin the Dream's point about beyothching, he is absolutely correct - guys are beyothching quite a bit - the only thing is that guys have always beyothched this much - its just that now we have the inter-web which acts as a loudspeaker/amplifier etc.
Thats my 1 Guinness down - ??? to go, St Patty's day peacemaking post!
Scoop
Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
Wee bit o' a rant...
Hired end of '88. Told on day one we'd all be Capt's in less than 5yrs. Thought, we'll see...
Flew with guys who spent years on the panel or smashed bags (vice furlough)... got my window seat in less than a year... spent next 9yrs in right seat of 727... felt very lucky.
Finally could upgrade after 13yrs (waited 'til 16yrs... 777 FO was awesome)... again, felt very lucky.
Don't really understand the beyotching about bids/ae's/res, etc., (especially from guys hired w/in the last four years). Seems like some people haven't really payed attention to what's been going on the past 20yrs, in this seniority based biz.
P.s., As I told my 2010 hire friend when he asked for advice on bidding an ae..."if your a relatively new hire and you don't want to go to training a lot, bid to be the most senior pilot on the most junior equipment you can hold. If you want to go to training a lot, do the opposite."
Last thought... unless Delta/DALPA decide they want to recapture their Scope/flying/brand identity, we are all pretty much finished.
Happy St. Paddy's Day
Boy you guys just don't get it - you are both right!
Every hiring cycle has relative winners and losers - hired at the beginning of a cycle - Luck O' the Irish. Hired at the end of cycle - Free system tour for 5 years.
It happened in 1991, 2001, and I guess 2010. Both the 1991 and 2001 guys got the bonus of Furloughs, and the 1991 guys a "B" scale to boot, so the recent hires are not exactly breaking new ground with multiple displacements. The 1991 hires had Western and Repulic mergers to deal with, the 2001 hires had 911, and the recent new hires have the DAL/NW merger.
As to Livin the Dream's point about beyothching, he is absolutely correct - guys are beyothching quite a bit - the only thing is that guys have always beyothched this much - its just that now we have the inter-web which acts as a loudspeaker/amplifier etc.
Thats my 1 Guinness down - ??? to go, St Patty's day peacemaking post!
Scoop
Surprised by the lack of Irish females around here. Shame on this place.
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03-17-2012, 03:50 PM
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So it's 80 in MSP?
On St Patricks day?
On St Patricks day?
03-17-2012, 04:18 PM
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It's 81 in San Juan. Cheers!
03-17-2012, 04:30 PM
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Great place to take pictures in Dublin...
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