Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-15-2012, 08:02 AM
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Okay, and I know T and Timbo will give me a hug over this and so please no I am not a paid supporter of Florida pilots, but for crying out loud WHY DO WE NOT HAVE A 767 BASE IN MCO??????
In MCO we had:
Delta Maintenance... chk
Flight Attendant base... chk
Several hundred 757 flights a day... chk
Overnight expenses for all of these overnight crews... chk
And yet no base? Is this punitive in nature? Are they planning on getting rid of the 757 flying out of MCO? I doubt it. But even if they were when did this company start caring about opening and closing bases at will? This seems punitive to me.
By the way, gotta love this out of MCO yesterday as we were boarding to fly to JFK:
FA: "Ma'am, I'm sorry but there is no more overhead space and we're going to have to check your bag."
Passenger: "Okay, that's fine."
Delta Jumpseater: "Don't do it ma'am. If they check your bag it'll be lost. You'll never see it again."
Passenger: "Wait, what? What should I do? I don't want to lose my bag?"
WTH?
In MCO we had:
Delta Maintenance... chk
Flight Attendant base... chk
Several hundred 757 flights a day... chk
Overnight expenses for all of these overnight crews... chk
And yet no base? Is this punitive in nature? Are they planning on getting rid of the 757 flying out of MCO? I doubt it. But even if they were when did this company start caring about opening and closing bases at will? This seems punitive to me.
By the way, gotta love this out of MCO yesterday as we were boarding to fly to JFK:
FA: "Ma'am, I'm sorry but there is no more overhead space and we're going to have to check your bag."
Passenger: "Okay, that's fine."
Delta Jumpseater: "Don't do it ma'am. If they check your bag it'll be lost. You'll never see it again."
Passenger: "Wait, what? What should I do? I don't want to lose my bag?"
WTH?
03-15-2012, 08:10 AM
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What is going on with our stock today, over 12 mil shares traded and up 40 cents?
03-15-2012, 08:11 AM
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Okay, and I know T and Timbo will give me a hug over this and so please no I am not a paid supporter of Florida pilots, but for crying out loud WHY DO WE NOT HAVE A 767 BASE IN MCO??????
In MCO we had:
Delta Maintenance... chk
Flight Attendant base... chk
Several hundred 757 flights a day... chk
Overnight expenses for all of these overnight crews... chk
And yet no base? Is this punitive in nature? Are they planning on getting rid of the 757 flying out of MCO? I doubt it. But even if they were when did this company start caring about opening and closing bases at will? This seems punitive to me.
In MCO we had:
Delta Maintenance... chk
Flight Attendant base... chk
Several hundred 757 flights a day... chk
Overnight expenses for all of these overnight crews... chk
And yet no base? Is this punitive in nature? Are they planning on getting rid of the 757 flying out of MCO? I doubt it. But even if they were when did this company start caring about opening and closing bases at will? This seems punitive to me.
Nu
03-15-2012, 08:13 AM
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I guess Florida is a throwaway market.. kind of like LAS. (MCO is the number 1 tourist destination in this solar system) But we cannot make money there I guess.. not that that has anything to do with whether there is a base there or not.. just a different perspective. Other than that.. I LOVE the way you think. I'd throw gear for Timbo in a heartbeat if I could drive to work 
that jumpseater was a SWA plant.
that jumpseater was a SWA plant.
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Delta was the "Official Airline of Disney World". We had a whole bunch of L1011's and 767-300's flying FULL, 5 flights a day, from BOS and NYC into MCO. Oh, we also had International flying out of MCO, to LGW and FRA, maybe Paris too, I can't remember as I was a domestic BOS 757puke at the time, but trust me, we OWNED Orlando...and Tampa, and Miami, and Ft. Lauderdale, and Palm Beach. We flew full L1011's and 767's from NYC and BOS to all the Major FL cities, 5 flights a day to each. Oh, and we also flew them from FL up to Montreal, full all summer.
This was before Jet Blew and Air Tran of course, oh, and nobody east of DFW had ever heard of SWA...
Then came Mo'Ron and his Project 7.5 (his CASM metric). He decided we needed to put only the 737-200's (Express) with ZERO first class seats, on those routes, and that basically pushed all our HVC's to American and US Air, who still offered a First Class upgrade for the Business traveler.
At In Command Class, I asked LEO the CEO why we ran away from the Florida market and gave it all to Jet Blue and Air Tran. He said, "Those are low yeild customers, they are families going on vacation, and they shop online for the cheapest tickets, so there's really no money in servicing them."
You may recall, it was Leo's idea to sell our tickets on Priceline, some as cheap as $20 if they were last minute sales. I once was non-reving up to BOS on an Express 737, and there was another pax who, when we got to BOS, didn't get off the airplane. I was about last off, so I heard the F/A's ask him, "Aren't you going to get off?"
He said, "No, I'm flying back to Orlando, so I'll just stay on." He then explained to her that he had bought a round trip ticket on Priceline for about $50, and he was only doing the round trip to put more Sky Miles into his account, which would put him into the Platinum level...and that would give him free upgrades on his future mainline business travel.
Brilliant strategy that Priceline thing there Leo!
03-15-2012, 08:16 AM
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03-15-2012, 08:33 AM
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AE is closed....let the beatings begin.
03-15-2012, 08:33 AM
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03-15-2012, 08:42 AM
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I agree with you. It's more proof that the regional MEC's and ALPA national had a hand in writing our Section 1 opener. This should come as no surprise. The Ford-Cooksey lawsuit settlement requires it, and Moak's first letter to us after being elected president said: 'We will use all the tools at our disposal to ensure contracts are not self-interested, but rather reflect what is best for the entire industry as a whole'.
But that didn't happen FIIGMO. Now what?
I never mentioned or even hinted at DPA in any part of my post. Why be irritated about something I never said?
Carl
But that didn't happen FIIGMO. Now what?
I never mentioned or even hinted at DPA in any part of my post. Why be irritated about something I never said?
Carl
Also, for me personally, JV and Scope are Career Critical!!l
I will be the first to strike if those issues are not addressed for the preservation of the career. When it comes to those issues for me, I have nothing to lose at this point. May as well quit rather than endure more suck....
03-15-2012, 08:45 AM
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03-15-2012, 08:48 AM
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