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03-15-2012, 05:51 AM
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Carl,
I am disappointed too with what I am reading, but I fail to see as you say, any proof that this a watered down version or that ALPA was worried that telling us the truth was not appropriate. Do you know for a fact or just guessing. I am curious and I am angry as well, but does this mean we are being blatantly lied too?
I am disappointed too with what I am reading, but I fail to see as you say, any proof that this a watered down version or that ALPA was worried that telling us the truth was not appropriate. Do you know for a fact or just guessing. I am curious and I am angry as well, but does this mean we are being blatantly lied too?
1. It looked just like previous openers...with the details redacted. Our union's opener template starts with the section name, then an opening declarative statement of fact as we see it, then a general goal of what we want to achieve in that section, then the detailed bullet points of what is our actual opening position. We've been shown all of this except the detailed bullets.
2. In many previous DALPA mailings, it was stated that our MEC spent the last year studying industry data, other contracts, Delta's finances with the EF&A team and pilot surveys to create a comprehensive opening position in time for the start of Section 6. They didn't spend all that time and energy to produce a concept.
3. They redacted all the details except the sprinkler system in hotels. Why would a "conceptual" opener include that extreme level of detail when scope and pay were so general? IMO, the evidence points to the fact that we exchanged openers with management the way we always have. Pilots just got the version with the details redacted...except sprinklers.
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03-15-2012, 06:03 AM
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03-15-2012, 06:07 AM
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03-15-2012, 06:15 AM
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03-15-2012, 06:17 AM
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03-15-2012, 06:19 AM
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03-15-2012, 06:21 AM
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why why why why why, and this has been this way ever since i started flying, does Air Force One go into civilian airports and not military airports???
The end of my trip is going to get goofed up tomorrow.
I will say this though, Air Force One, or Sam I Am or whatever they called it, used to do touch and goes at PHF 20 years ago when I was learning to fly. That was cool. I missed every time the 747 came in but I saw everyone else pictures. I did see the old Air Force One 707 do low approaches. My dad says he still sees AF1 from time to time.
The end of my trip is going to get goofed up tomorrow.
I will say this though, Air Force One, or Sam I Am or whatever they called it, used to do touch and goes at PHF 20 years ago when I was learning to fly. That was cool. I missed every time the 747 came in but I saw everyone else pictures. I did see the old Air Force One 707 do low approaches. My dad says he still sees AF1 from time to time.
03-15-2012, 06:21 AM
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03-15-2012, 06:27 AM
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Dude. That is the funniest pic you've ever posted on here. Not only does it have a Lake Minnetonka (MSP) tie-in, it is absolutely perfect for describing our own "lovable" codgers that are constantly at each others throats.
*No offense intended to the lovable old codgers. Just having a little pre-AE closing fun
*No offense intended to the lovable old codgers. Just having a little pre-AE closing fun
03-15-2012, 06:28 AM
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Totally incorrect. We fly a lot more hard hours per month than FDX or UPS.
I know you couldn't care less about strengthening scope unless it is given to us as a no cost item. But if you're going to continue to make management's case for them, you need to at least know that we're far more productive than our brothers at FDX and UPS.
Carl
I know you couldn't care less about strengthening scope unless it is given to us as a no cost item. But if you're going to continue to make management's case for them, you need to at least know that we're far more productive than our brothers at FDX and UPS.
Carl
When you have time, would you explain how the number of hours my butt is in the seat has anything to do with MY productivity as an employee/cost center/pilot of any given airline ? I'm pretty sure a FDX/UPS bubba will generate more revenue for their company than our legacy brothers in a similar crew position.......on a month to month basis, regardless of hard hours flown respectively....I'm pretty sure you know this. Working more/harder does not equal smarter/more productive.
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BG
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