Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-12-2012, 06:39 PM
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03-12-2012, 06:48 PM
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DALPA board is stoking the 717 rumors again. Somebody's wife's brother knows a mx guy that says its a done deal. Anyone have any more info? Anyone want to make up some?
03-12-2012, 06:51 PM
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THings might be changing, Ill give him a call.
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03-12-2012, 07:56 PM
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You have to attempt to view it from a management standpoint. They have spent five years in a reeducation campaign with the other employees that Delta will only be able to pay industry standard wages. They are correct in their cost assumptions to an extent. This is perhaps the most brutal industry around on companies that let costs get out of line.
A pilot contract that is viewed as above the abstract they have created with the other employees will lead to big problems. After our 2001 contract they had to follow up with a 17 percent raise to the mechanics when things started to get ugly there.
I suspect they will be willing to put forth a contract with some impressive numbers in the out years. They will not put out anything near what I or most pilots expect in the short term. The collapse of talks at UAL and the 1113 action at AMR will leave the company thinking and serious raises for the pilots will put their pilot costs way to high and that they will have other costs with non union employee fallout. The package they put forth will be back loaded while the package we want and deserve will have to be front loaded. I see the gap between the two as far to big to be bridged before we go to the NBM. The NMB has made it clear we can expect a very long process if we go that route.
Again this is going to be a long difficult contract with a lot of choices that have to be made. Don't start spending raises now. They may not come for 5 years.
A pilot contract that is viewed as above the abstract they have created with the other employees will lead to big problems. After our 2001 contract they had to follow up with a 17 percent raise to the mechanics when things started to get ugly there.
I suspect they will be willing to put forth a contract with some impressive numbers in the out years. They will not put out anything near what I or most pilots expect in the short term. The collapse of talks at UAL and the 1113 action at AMR will leave the company thinking and serious raises for the pilots will put their pilot costs way to high and that they will have other costs with non union employee fallout. The package they put forth will be back loaded while the package we want and deserve will have to be front loaded. I see the gap between the two as far to big to be bridged before we go to the NBM. The NMB has made it clear we can expect a very long process if we go that route.
Again this is going to be a long difficult contract with a lot of choices that have to be made. Don't start spending raises now. They may not come for 5 years.
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03-12-2012, 08:05 PM
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03-12-2012, 08:20 PM
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Uh, yes. Here's your post again for review:
So that's not marginalizing one's strike experience? You're really proud of this kind of post?
I've never said my opinions should valued any higher than anyone else's. I simply state them...same as you.
So that means the only way tsquare can conside an MEC a success is if they give in to management as required so long as a strike is avoided?
Carl
Now now... cut the big man a little slack. After all, HE's been on strike. That right there automatically makes his opinion not only extremely valuable, but one that the rest should take without question, and because he KNOWS what success is all about. He told the company to stuff it and walked out the door. And... he flies Super DUPER Premium. That makes him a better pilot than ANYBODY else, because as we all know there are only about 5000 of those airplanes ever built, and it is a skill set that only the best of the best of the best (with honors) could ever hope to fly...
More experienced
Better skillset
We're not worthy
More experienced
Better skillset
We're not worthy
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03-12-2012, 08:35 PM
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I'm on reserve quite frequently. Because we have such long trips on the 747, any vacation, training or carry in can often times make you "unblockable" thus putting you on reserve. That happens to me darn near every other month.
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03-12-2012, 09:53 PM
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