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Old 03-10-2012, 07:48 AM
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Seems to me RA is making some moves here. He's not going to sit and watch Asia slip out of his fingers.
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Old 03-10-2012, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
I think some of us are getting a little excited prematurely about this opener. Lets see where the road takes us. Don't buy that new car just yet fellas.
Correct, no need to get worked up until there is something to put your hand on, and then it is an opener, not a TA, and more specifically not a TA that has been approved by out reps. This could be a drawn out affair, or it could be quick. Our union will put forth our demands and we will go from there.

Nice day out, too bad I am sick, I think it would be a great day for a BBQ. (at home) .

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Old 03-10-2012, 07:50 AM
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I think he will be aggressively pursuing ways into South America too.
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Old 03-10-2012, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Whidbey
In all the back and forth about what constitutes an opener, and whether or not Carl should be eating crow, I think we're missing the more interesting (and relevant) story here.

After years in this contract that can be opened up April 5, why would management agree to meet for openers early? What events in the news might cause this? Is anyone watching what's going on at AMR? ACL pointed out that they have a hearing 22 March to request an extension from the court. Under the initial filing, didn't they have until the 29th to be the only entity to be able to submit a plan before the court?

The Chairman's letter states:

"But as we have in the past when opportunities have presented themselves, we again choose not to wait. The Pilot Working Agreement permits contract openers to be exchanged up to 270 days prior to our December 31, 2012 amendable date, which is April 5, 2012. We believe opportunities exist, so today, your MEC directed the Negotiating Committee to meet with Delta management early next week to discuss opening the contract now with the goal of achieving a comprehensive agreement on an expedited basis."

Does this make anyone else think the next round of consolidation is about to get rolling?
If I was betting, MIA could be a new hub
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Old 03-10-2012, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Wasn't it you Carl that was bashing Sailing/Slowplay, just a 100 posts ago or so, about "Delta liquidating"?
I'll want you to earn that flight pay loss Gearjerk. Please post where I've ever said anything about Delta liquidating. I know you're only at post 2062 in your research and we're up to 92,000 plus so far, but you can do it. I trust in the power of flight pay loss!

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Funny thing about it Carl, you too felt that was the correct action when you wrote it the first time. Not now I guess when you have to always contradict what the "organization" is doing?
No idea what you're talking about here or referencing. Do you?

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Again, give it a rest for a while, everyone else has moved on, it's time for you to do the same.

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Nah...I want you to earn that flight pay loss.

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Old 03-10-2012, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Correct, no need to get worked up until there is something to put your hand on, and then it is an opener, not a TA, and more specifically not a TA that has been approved by out reps. This could be a drawn out affair, or it could be quick. Our union will put forth our demands and we will go from there.

Nice day out, too bad I am sick, I think it would be a great day for a BBQ.
Not to rub it in, but I'm firing up the ribs soon.
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Old 03-10-2012, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Can continue to find multiple contradictory posts of yours Carl, but yes, I'm the one that's wrong. (You are fricken hilarious.)

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I'll look forward to you finding your first one.

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Old 03-10-2012, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
If I was betting, MIA could be a new hub
Stop teasing us.
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Old 03-10-2012, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Seems to me RA is making some moves here. He's not going to sit and watch Asia slip out of his fingers.
There are many opportunities afoot. Japan and Asia are important for us, but so are some of the other opportunities out there. Stand by for whatever comes.

I can see two or three smaller transactions in the next 3-36 months. All of them strengthen our network. DALPA and the DAL pilots being on board will be key in all of them.
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Old 03-10-2012, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JobHopper
I actually have 10 hrs of instrument time in one of those, courtesy of the Air Force.

And typing this makes me realize how old I'm getting. Pardon me while I go find some Geritol.
Now THAT is cool. I'm envious sir.

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