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Old 03-09-2012, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Lets see. AMR just filed a petition for a hearing on extending their time for a reorganization plan for six more months. That hearing is March 22. We meet on the 13th.

It may not be American but their actions and the actions of the Japanese government are compressing the companies timeline. (just two of many issues but two of the top issues)


Uh, what about the Japanese government? I missed that part...
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:23 PM
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Opening Haneda. Bad for Delta. Good for AMR.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
You can read it for yourself, good sir. You are part of C20. I'm not going to post union literature on a public forum.

If you need the path, here you go:

1. Air Line Pilots Association, International
2. "enter your alpa # & password"
3. "click on" drop down menu, "My MEC/LEC"
4. Select "DAL020LEC"
5. Select the "library" menu/option
6. Choose the "updates" folder, and
7. Filter the list for "Chairman's"

It's the letter dated 10-17-2011. It is also a PDF document, so if you want to quickly find the remark, search "poker", it'll take you right to the wording.

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OK, here's the actual language:

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The Negotiating Committee will provide the MEC with a detailed statistical analysis of the results of the Contract Survey to guide our opening proposal. No, the line pilots will not be receiving a summary of our opening PWA proposal. This would be like betting in a game of poker with your hand exposed.

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Tell me Gear Jerk...did you go through all that trouble thinking it would prove me wrong?

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Old 03-09-2012, 06:25 PM
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Carl,
What do want? If Dalpa comes out and asks for a 50% raise and then only gets a 49% raise, I'm sure you'd be te first person telling us how the MEC failed.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by clancy
Opening Haneda. Bad for Delta. Good for AMR.
Moreover the fact that the Japanese government wants to reopen our open skies accord and grant four new slots to ANA and JAL allowing them to move all of their service from NRT to HND with no limitations on time. It would result in a destruction of our NRT hub and a loss of 6 of the 8 nrt US frequencies.

P2P has a good document on it that I believe is on their page.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
Carl,
What do want? If Dalpa comes out and asks for a 50% raise and then only gets a 49% raise, I'm sure you'd be te first person telling us how the MEC failed.

I would be floored if we put a percentage in there and then limited ourselves to having a published number.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
Scambo,

As a 777 guy I'm guessing you probably haven't been to NATCO...

In the front lobby is an ancient WWII era Link Trainer in beautifully restored condition. It really is cool.

I agree completely that it needs to be kept and displayed prominently.
There is one in the Delta museum in Atlanta. Not sure it's "beautifully restored" per se. But it could use a buddy.

I don't know how grown men fit in those things though.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I would be floored if we put a percentage in there and then limited ourselves to having a published number.
EXACTLY, that's the point I was trying to make.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
There is one in the Delta museum in Atlanta. Not sure it's "beautifully restored" per se. But it could use a buddy.

I don't know how grown men fit in those things though.
Most had less than 42 in waists back then.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
Carl,
What do want? If Dalpa comes out and asks for a 50% raise and then only gets a 49% raise, I'm sure you'd be te first person telling us how the MEC failed.
Try to stay on topic man. Focus.....focus...

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