dragon

I took the time to quickly fill out the survey and then spent a lot of time on the open comments section at the end. Basically saying not to spend any time whatsoever on the uniform and then reiterating scope, reserve rules, vacation, training pay etc.

Fill out the survey, but do it your own way. It's another opportunity to get your views out there.

acl65pilot

The followed the will of the pilots. The genesis of this was a LEC resolution that was passed by the MEC due to the fact that many people have been talking about it. A survey ensued. It literally came from the line pilots.

As for the first part. I get the distinct impression that the REPS know that if they do not follow the will of the pilots, they and the association will stand a very hard time surviving.

iaflyer

I get the point about following the will of the pilots: "If we can't get them to do a simple survey on the uniform, how can ALPA be expected to get what I want in the new contract.."

So maybe we'll see more action on resolutions now rather than being "received".

CVG767A

Before posting this, did you even bother checking to see if any ALPA reps are sitting reserve? I don't know the answer to that question myself, but since reserves are such a small percentage of any given category, and "senior" reserves are an even smaller subgroup, don't you think what you heard being "discussed" is unlikely?

The same conspiracy theorist that buys this will also blindly accept that all ALPA reps are dropping all of their trips for union business. If they're doing that, do they need a good reserve system?

acl65pilot

If you look at the history of this MEC over the last 18 months, I do not believe that one resolution has simply been received. They are voting them up or down. Some need significant modifications to pass, but they are doing what they need to in drafting committee to get the will of their pilots pushed though. Of course there are some reps that do this more than others, but the body as a whole has been doing above average on this item.

The true test is the opener, a extension, modification and the final product which is the TA from any of these. If it falls short, this pilot group will boil over. What I have read on this forum is indicative of the cross section of this group. The middle of the road here is the middle of the road throughout this group. Expectations are high, and they should be. It is our first non-concessionary full section 6 in a decade.

Sink r8

Hi Troll,

Ever since we went to the RAW system, it's been universally hated for failing to respect seniority, for arbitrarily assigning SC, and failing to respect personal preferences. Many of us complained, and complained, until this was corrected. That job has already been done. Now you want to **** it up?

Are you actually on Reserve?

Sink r8

I would argue that the bucket size isn't driving this. If there is moderate flying in a catgeory, and the bucket size is for example 80, then the more senior pilots will have to work in the second half, and they will have to keep working until their own RAW score gets them into the higher bucket, while the junior guy is hanging out. In other words, a bigger bucket, with a moderate amount fo flying, means the senior guy is more likely to start later in the month, when the junior guy will have a quiet period.

If there is a lot of flying, you can't hide: the flying will hit everyone. A bucket isn't a guarantee of not flying, it's a guarantee of being picked last.

The real value of the system, when there is almost no flying, is that the senior-most guy has a good chance at not having to fly. When this happens, this sytem incentivizes senior pilots to bid Reserve, and junior pilots have access to more lines. It also helps commuters: the junior pilot that wants to fly a lot, and be done, actually can. The RAW score system without buckets made sure he was a prisoner in his crashpad, constantly in limbo, not free to go home, but not getting used either.

The people that complaint the most are the the peopel that have to fly weekends. Considering how much we now whoare for more, it's a by-product of senior pilots putting in WS during the week, and there is nothing the RAW buckets will do to prevent it.

forgot to bid

I did the same and have been trying to encourage others to do it as well.

Sink r8

The first part of your premise is flawed. We HAD a pure seniority-based Reserve system, and as I recall, it was so beautiful you mostly had to worry about being senior enough for Reserve. This isn't a seniority-based sytem, it's a (RAW) system that was fundamentally designed NOT to respect seniority, and ensure lower credit time. The RAW system has one, and only one, benefficiary: the company.

As for the second part, if a 12-14 year F/O "wins" by bidding 88 Reserve, does he/she not deserve to?

acl65pilot

Those that are senior can strategically bid to have off the second half of the month and as a result not fly at all. That is the only shortcoming I see with a simple bucket RAW value number.