Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Time to punish AS with half a dozen narrowbodies of our own LAX-SEA and taking both BOS-SEA away from them by seat duping our own metal. The extra capacity wouldn't make a dent in yields to our massive system over all, but would severely punish them for their insolence.
Or we could just lie down and take it and worry about next quarter's numbers as if that's all that matters.
Or we could just lie down and take it and worry about next quarter's numbers as if that's all that matters.
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Time to punish AS with half a dozen narrowbodies of our own LAX-SEA and taking both BOS-SEA away from them by seat duping our own metal. The extra capacity wouldn't make a dent in yields to our massive system over all, but would severely punish them for their insolence.
Or we could just lie down and take it and worry about next quarter's numbers as if that's all that matters.
Or we could just lie down and take it and worry about next quarter's numbers as if that's all that matters.
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Originally Posted by Too Tall
Quick vacation bidding question, I'm new to holding a line, we don't get trip touching drops on our vacations correct? PBS will not assign you a trip that would interfere with vacation is the way I understand it. Is that correct?
Denny is correct, but something we all need to remember is that PBS is first and foremost a computer program that turns our PWA into a monthly schedule. If the PWA told PBS to run first, and then factor in vacations, we could very easily have "Trips Touching."
It is the current PWA that prevents "Trips Touching" not PBS.
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Originally Posted by Too Tall
Quick vacation bidding question, I'm new to holding a line, we don't get trip touching drops on our vacations correct? PBS will not assign you a trip that would interfere with vacation is the way I understand it. Is that correct?
Denny is correct, but something we all need to remember is that PBS is first and foremost a computer program that turns our PWA into a monthly schedule. If the PWA told PBS to run first, and then factor in vacations, we could very easily have "Trips Touching."
It is the current PWA that prevents "Trips Touching" not PBS.
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The problem with vacation is its insanely, insultingly low credit. having a 7 day period on your line that only credits 21 hours is worthless. All it does is guarantee which days you will have off for the month and then throws a couple more days off for the average bidder. Vacation needs to be at least 5 hours a day, and ideally 6. But a minimum of 35 hours of credit for a week of vacation is mandatory. That's a powerful block on your line that will actually give you at least an extra week off, at all seniority levels, lineholder or reserve, and does so fairly and equitably for all pilots rather than the all or nothing system a touch drop would bring.
We could then get optional remedies like no reports prior to noon on the day after, waiveable by the pilot in PBS (to enhance line building options if the pilot chose it) etc.
With the low pay scales, inadequate work rules and horrible scope we have, the last thing we need to be fighting for at contract time is the restoration of little micro empires that a few jailhouse lawyer pilots can scam for extra months off or regular lines with triple pay with comparitively no benefit to the majority of the pilot group.
We already got rid of all recovery from OE trip takes, which in and of itself is fine, but we can't let it lead to the buddy bid with LCA's and greenslip a similar line for triple pay or even entire month off, month after month schedules. That's not savvy pilots getting one over on the CEO's bonus account; that's a handful of inside traders featherbedding at all of our expense.
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My card is in for ATLDC9A. It's also in for ATLDC9B. How junior do you think right seat of the DC-9 in ATL is going to go? I'm hoping to be in the top 20 percent and hold a line indefinitely on it. Then bid reserve in the winter and take advantage of our new reserve rules.
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Very well. I'll rephrase my statement. We as moderators have zero influence over the ads on APC.
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Did you know about the ad before it was posted? Were you instructed to plug it?
very peculiar timing for one or more mods to bring up the topic, unsolicited, on this thread.
Last edited by johnso29; 03-07-2012 at 02:34 PM.
Alright gents. One of you posted a picture of one of our FA's. It was off a facebook page. I will say this nicely. It happens again, the thread is locked. That is totally below the belt and she did not give you permission. You know who you are and were smart enough to take it down. The quotes have been deleted.
I understand taking the high ground, and posters should use discretion, but no reason to close a thread....
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Yep, once you put it on FB, consider it in the public domain...
Now I don't know the context here, however Facebook's privacy policy does state anything posted on Facebook is public domain. This from Facebook's privacy policy: "...Just like when you share information by email or elsewhere on the web, information you share on Facebook can be re-shared. This means that if you share something on Facebook, anyone who can see it can share it with others, including the games, applications, and websites they use...."
I understand taking the high ground, and posters should use discretion, but no reason to close a thread....
I understand taking the high ground, and posters should use discretion, but no reason to close a thread....
Facebook has tens of billions of dollars, lots of insurance, and lots of lawyers.
APC does not.
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