Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-03-2012, 08:19 PM
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Looks like Delta just got a second slot from SLC to DCA after Obama enacted the latest FAA funding bill, and apparently it will be a 738 leaving in the afternoon out of SLC, returning the next morning back to SLC. AA will fly a 757 from DCA to LAX, and UAL will start nonstop SFO. I think USAir also got some slots, but has not decided yet where to fly them.
03-03-2012, 08:20 PM
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I declare with a 0 raw and 0 credit, that I am in bucket 2 for the month of March.
I declared it so therefore I is. Just like when Michael Scott declared bankruptcy, he shouted it as loud as he could til the accountant explained there was actually some paper work involved.
I declared it so therefore I is. Just like when Michael Scott declared bankruptcy, he shouted it as loud as he could til the accountant explained there was actually some paper work involved.
03-03-2012, 08:46 PM
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Slow,
Did you google " fa millionaires" ? I wrote compensation, not pay. Anyhow, when gaap changed for how corporations grants stock options, the grants went away.
Would you acknowledge that we in the past and currently have a decent contract?
Rolf
Did you google " fa millionaires" ? I wrote compensation, not pay. Anyhow, when gaap changed for how corporations grants stock options, the grants went away.
Would you acknowledge that we in the past and currently have a decent contract?
Rolf
03-03-2012, 09:03 PM
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I get the fact that you are ticked off at DALPA. Most pilots around here have some serious gripes with them. But, let the record show for me that even though I think DALPA has dropped the ball on many issues, it's contract time. Meaning, it's time to get paid. Like paid what we should have been getting paid 5-7 years ago.
Right now, DALPA is up to bat, and if they strike out by bringing home a crappy TA, then it's time for them to go. But, until then, because I'm wearing the same uniform as them, I sincerely hope they hit a home run.
Let's not root to have our noses cut off, so in 18 months we can spite Sailing, Slow, Alpha, or Ts. That's just dumb, and personally I feel I've been underpaid long enough.
I hope I'm wrong and hope everyone feels the same.....
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03-03-2012, 09:10 PM
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This thread has really gotten boring. I'm out.
03-03-2012, 09:32 PM
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Some of you guys are starting to appear to be so pro DPA that you are also becoming anti Delta pilot. Maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that some of you are rooting for DALPA to totally screw things up even more just so you can say, "See, I was right."
I get the fact that you are ticked off at DALPA. Most pilots around here have some serious gripes with them. But, let the record show for me that even though I think DALPA has dropped the ball on many issues, it's contract time. Meaning, it's time to get paid. Like paid what we should have been getting paid 5-7 years ago.
Right now, DALPA is up to bat, and if they strike out by bringing home a crappy TA, then it's time for them to go. But, until then, because I'm wearing the same uniform as them, I sincerely hope they hit a home run.
Let's not root to have our noses cut off, so in 18 months we can spite Sailing, Slow, Alpha, or Ts. That's just dumb, and personally I feel I've been underpaid long enough.
I hope I'm wrong and hope everyone feels the same.....
I get the fact that you are ticked off at DALPA. Most pilots around here have some serious gripes with them. But, let the record show for me that even though I think DALPA has dropped the ball on many issues, it's contract time. Meaning, it's time to get paid. Like paid what we should have been getting paid 5-7 years ago.
Right now, DALPA is up to bat, and if they strike out by bringing home a crappy TA, then it's time for them to go. But, until then, because I'm wearing the same uniform as them, I sincerely hope they hit a home run.
Let's not root to have our noses cut off, so in 18 months we can spite Sailing, Slow, Alpha, or Ts. That's just dumb, and personally I feel I've been underpaid long enough.
I hope I'm wrong and hope everyone feels the same.....
Denny
03-03-2012, 09:41 PM
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Some of you guys are starting to appear to be so pro DPA that you are also becoming anti Delta pilot. Maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that some of you are rooting for DALPA to totally screw things up even more just so you can say, "See, I was right."
I get the fact that you are ticked off at DALPA. Most pilots around here have some serious gripes with them. But, let the record show for me that even though I think DALPA has dropped the ball on many issues, it's contract time. Meaning, it's time to get paid. Like paid what we should have been getting paid 5-7 years ago.
Right now, DALPA is up to bat, and if they strike out by bringing home a crappy TA, then it's time for them to go. But, until then, because I'm wearing the same uniform as them, I sincerely hope they hit a home run.
Let's not root to have our noses cut off, so in 18 months we can spite Sailing, Slow, Alpha, or Ts. That's just dumb, and personally I feel I've been underpaid long enough.
I hope I'm wrong and hope everyone feels the same.....
I get the fact that you are ticked off at DALPA. Most pilots around here have some serious gripes with them. But, let the record show for me that even though I think DALPA has dropped the ball on many issues, it's contract time. Meaning, it's time to get paid. Like paid what we should have been getting paid 5-7 years ago.
Right now, DALPA is up to bat, and if they strike out by bringing home a crappy TA, then it's time for them to go. But, until then, because I'm wearing the same uniform as them, I sincerely hope they hit a home run.
Let's not root to have our noses cut off, so in 18 months we can spite Sailing, Slow, Alpha, or Ts. That's just dumb, and personally I feel I've been underpaid long enough.
I hope I'm wrong and hope everyone feels the same.....
Spot on as always, newK.
It sure would be nice if the DALPA/DPA master debaters would take it over to that thread. I'm sick of it and sick of modding it.
As post here or there would be fine, but good gosh it's like banging your head against a wall after that.
For the record, I filled out the uniform survey. The hats are staying and button up that coat, boys and girls! You long sleeve wearing freaks will have to keep them in the winter only. Show off those guns in the summer with the rest of us.
03-03-2012, 09:58 PM
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Some of you guys are starting to appear to be so pro DPA that you are also becoming anti Delta pilot. Maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling that some of you are rooting for DALPA to totally screw things up even more just so you can say, "See, I was right."
I get the fact that you are ticked off at DALPA. Most pilots around here have some serious gripes with them. But, let the record show for me that even though I think DALPA has dropped the ball on many issues, it's contract time. Meaning, it's time to get paid. Like paid what we should have been getting paid 5-7 years ago.
Right now, DALPA is up to bat, and if they strike out by bringing home a crappy TA, then it's time for them to go. But, until then, because I'm wearing the same uniform as them, I sincerely hope they hit a home run.
Let's not root to have our noses cut off, so in 18 months we can spite Sailing, Slow, Alpha, or Ts. That's just dumb, and personally I feel I've been underpaid long enough.
I hope I'm wrong and hope everyone feels the same.....
I get the fact that you are ticked off at DALPA. Most pilots around here have some serious gripes with them. But, let the record show for me that even though I think DALPA has dropped the ball on many issues, it's contract time. Meaning, it's time to get paid. Like paid what we should have been getting paid 5-7 years ago.
Right now, DALPA is up to bat, and if they strike out by bringing home a crappy TA, then it's time for them to go. But, until then, because I'm wearing the same uniform as them, I sincerely hope they hit a home run.
Let's not root to have our noses cut off, so in 18 months we can spite Sailing, Slow, Alpha, or Ts. That's just dumb, and personally I feel I've been underpaid long enough.
I hope I'm wrong and hope everyone feels the same.....
New,
I was thinking along the same lines - and then I came across this.
ALPA National was pushing for a 750 hour minimum for the new part 121 rules.. I was thinking - great this is a big improvement from the current 250 hour minimum.
Then I find the government is recommending 1000 hours! ***! ALPA was pushing for less hours then the government is recommending.
To me this like getting a 20% raise and finding out that ALPA was pushing for 15%. How could ALPA possibly be pushing for less than the recommended flight hour number???
Oh thats right ALPA represents more regional pilots then Delta Pilots. But even that does not make sense - you would think the current regional pilots would have the most to gain from raising the requirements into the field.
I know we are entering section 6 and should probably stick with ALPA for now - but this blows me away. ALPA says "The new limits are coming one way or another - so we can huff and puff on the sides or get engaged and affect the outcome. What a joke - the outcome is better than what ALPA was pushing. In other words, lucky for us ALPA does not have near the clout they think they have.
Scoop
03-03-2012, 10:20 PM
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My upfront raise was 20 percent with ongoing 5 percent raises over the life of a 4 year contract. Total 40. I wanted a lot on the other items and I was told I asked more then most in those areas. My emphasis areas were increasing copilot pay to a 15 year scale taking the max up to 75 percent of CA pay. Sick leave back to the pre 1113 program, DC up to 18 percent, reserve pay 5 hours below ALV with a 70 hour minimum, Vacation and training pay and credit for line construction and actual pay with increases to 4 hours per day for both. Section 1 gross weight maximum reduced to pre LOA 46 weight with current contracts sunsetted. 6th week of vacation restored. Distributed training pays 1 for 1.
Do you believe your list of wants above is achievable in this upcoming contract? If you want those things why do you spend so much time on these forums giving a multitude of reasons they wont be achievable?
03-03-2012, 10:23 PM
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