BoyFromSouth

+1

I could not agree more. We have bigger fish to fry than sending out a servey that deals with uniforms and hats. The survey should have asked more important questions concerning pay, scope, insurance, reserve, retirement and other quality of life issues.

I can only wonder how much time and money was spent on such a worthless survey to the pilot group. ALPA should have thought this one thru a little better.

BFS

CVG767A

I'm sitting at the gate in CVG, waiting for my commuter flight. Across the airport, at the GA ramp, is a Southwest 737. Does anyone have any intel on this?

forgot to bid

What in the hell? This is important why?????? I think I've clicked on every "it's fine, leave it alone."

The FOM states that the uniform jacket will be worn buttoned at all times. Would you prefer a change to the FOM so that you had the option to wear your uniform jacket either buttoned or unbuttoned?
Yes
No

buzzpat

News flash: the new long layover hotel in Philly rocks! A very nice surprise after yet another brutal red eye. Well done DALPA! Or Delta, or whoever is responsible. Very nice!

sailingfun

Bill, You ignore how SWAPA got where they are. After DALPA moved the curve way up with 737 Pay at 235 an hour SWAPA got the first big pay raise ever for their pilots. The brought their rate all the way up to 190 an hour. Over the last 11 years since then they have averaged about a 1 percent a year raise even though they worked for the most profitable airline in the US.
Why they kept their rates when others failed to do so is simple. They never filed bankruptcy. Their management went to the casino and placed a 5 billion dollar wager and won! They skipped the entire fuel crises as a result. Hard to ask for pay cuts when your making huge profits. The management team at Delta on the other hand lost 5 billion dollars with 3 key mistakes. The purchase of ASA and Comair, 2 billion dollar stock buy back and selling owned fuel hedges. Thats a 10 billion dollar swing between Delta and SWA.
I know somehow you will try and make that 10 billion dollar swing DALPA fault but sadly it was not. In the end the success of DALPA should be measured by what they salvaged from a near death situation. Overall we came out of this far better then any other airline in history that has faced a similar situation. You can choose to ignore the entire last decade and again blame everything on DALPA however reality tells a much different story.

forgot to bid

The good thing about the survey is it allows us to write in comments, which is just another opportunity to talk about scope and pay. Not whether the FOM should be changed to allow us to walk around with our jacket unbuttoned???????????????

sailingfun

I believe the uniform survey was mandated by a member resolution. In some bases the uniform seems to be a big issue to the pilots.

Columbia

FlightAware > Southwest Airlines (WN) #7016 Flight Tracker

Headed to Vacaville.

buzzpat

If it was, and I don't doubt you Sailing, those bases are getting lost in the morass that is a contract negotiation. If you fight every battle to win, you lose the war. Hat vs. pay? Jacket vs. scope? Really?

forgot to bid

I'm starting to think of things I wish I had said on the survey.

First, why do we want to look like regional pilots?

Second, (I wish I talked more about scope).