Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-01-2012, 04:33 PM
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03-01-2012, 04:36 PM
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The Glock discount is on any Glock handgun, and is open to any commercial pilot (pilot certificate required). The offer can be redeemed at any participating gun dealer.
There is a S&W pilot deal, but I have no details.
Also check out Bud's Guns in Lexington (The LEO website, not the public website) They have good "Law Enforcement" deals for anyone with a commercial pilot certificate. Note that the prices are already discounted and include free shipping to your hometown FFL. Discount Guns for Law Enforcement by Buds Gun Shop (budsgunshop.com)
That should get you started anyway.
03-01-2012, 04:37 PM
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When we talk about managed expectations, this is what many of us are hearing:
Sorry, but that's the push back against managed expectations.
Pilots to Pilot Negotiator: We want a minimum of 40% raise plus full scope recapture.
Company Negotiator to Company Negotiator: Okay, remember, no more than 35% raise and hold the line on scope except in a couple of areas but only if they come down with the raise.
Pilot Negotiator to Pilot: Okay thanks, we'll let you know how it goes but you're asking too much, sorry. Watch me wring my hands.
Pilot's Negotiator: Okay, 10% first year, 3% year after year, scope stays the same except add "you'll make your best effort to..." wherever we ask.
Company Negotiator: We'll give you 5% first year, 2% thereafter, or we go bankrupt again.
Pilot: 8% no lower, 3%, and remember we're friends.
Mediator: Okay, half of 10 and 5 is 7.5%, I'll accept 2% thereafter, and the company has to add "best effort to..." in most of the areas requested. This has to be done immediately because the company has told me they need to merge asap, so thanks for playing.
Pilot Negotiator to Pilots: Here is your TA, and by the way, if you don't sign it, we're furloughing, parking jets and probably liquidating.
Company Negotiator to Company Negotiator: Okay, remember, no more than 35% raise and hold the line on scope except in a couple of areas but only if they come down with the raise.
Pilot Negotiator to Pilot: Okay thanks, we'll let you know how it goes but you're asking too much, sorry. Watch me wring my hands.
Pilot's Negotiator: Okay, 10% first year, 3% year after year, scope stays the same except add "you'll make your best effort to..." wherever we ask.
Company Negotiator: We'll give you 5% first year, 2% thereafter, or we go bankrupt again.
Pilot: 8% no lower, 3%, and remember we're friends.
Mediator: Okay, half of 10 and 5 is 7.5%, I'll accept 2% thereafter, and the company has to add "best effort to..." in most of the areas requested. This has to be done immediately because the company has told me they need to merge asap, so thanks for playing.
Pilot Negotiator to Pilots: Here is your TA, and by the way, if you don't sign it, we're furloughing, parking jets and probably liquidating.
03-01-2012, 04:39 PM
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03-01-2012, 04:40 PM
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03-01-2012, 04:40 PM
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I'm just sayin'
03-01-2012, 04:40 PM
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Offline pilots allowed on flight deck down to Caribbean?
03-01-2012, 04:44 PM
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The new bucket system with it's high thresholds has basically returned reserve to a seniority only system. The focus is on honoring seniority above all else.
So it made me think, if we're going to honor seniority why do we have a different system for WS pick up than we do for GS pick up?
Why should a senior pilot have to wait until everyone else has had a chance to get a GS? If we're going to bring seniority back into the mix, then GS should be no different than WS, seniority first no matter how many you've gotten. Isn't that the way it used to be? Why not return to it now?
So it made me think, if we're going to honor seniority why do we have a different system for WS pick up than we do for GS pick up?
Why should a senior pilot have to wait until everyone else has had a chance to get a GS? If we're going to bring seniority back into the mix, then GS should be no different than WS, seniority first no matter how many you've gotten. Isn't that the way it used to be? Why not return to it now?
03-01-2012, 04:44 PM
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03-01-2012, 04:45 PM
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Rather,
I don't know why you feel the need to be inflamatory to all the pilots on this board. Once seen, that picture of you cannot be unseen.
Please surrender your man card.
You sir are no Jesse
I don't know why you feel the need to be inflamatory to all the pilots on this board. Once seen, that picture of you cannot be unseen.
Please surrender your man card.
You sir are no Jesse
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