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Old 06-26-2009, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
You guys probably think I'm crazy, but I keep a log and I record pax loads. For the past two rotations (two 4-day trips), we've had max capacity except for one early morning flight ... 20 empty seats out of 142.

Yesterday in DFW, we left a whopping 72 non-revs at the gate, and every seat in the airplane was full (no non-revs on the aircraft) with 8 infant in arms. It was crazy.
It got better in Dallas yesterday. It was up to 84 non-revs trying to get on. Some had been there for two days. Fact is that it is worse this year in DFW due to the fact that they did not put 757's on every flight like they have done in years past. It is killing getting to work.

The FA's are staying in ATL this week with their friends. Thank god they found someone to watch the cats.....
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdaddie
Bill Boeing will find financing for us if we want airplanes, trust me.
I know they will, but at what interest rate is the key question.

As for the fall of another airline. It looks like LLC is getting close. It appears that their book are not how it seems.

For some reason our management thinks that they or UAUA are not long for this world. That bodes well for the pilots. Because of this firm belief they will keep a lot of people on they do not need so they can react very quickly with a almost overnight capacity increase.
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by seamonster
anybody hear about the displacement being moved to sept or oct
IMHO, if they are moving it, it is because of further guidance on the required training and when it will need to take place. This SOC or at a time when they can have a joint bid.

I know people do not want to hear about it, but it makes sense for everyone but the DAL guys that are going to get bumped, me being one of them.
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I know they will, but at what interest rate is the key question.

As for the fall of another airline. It looks like LLC is getting close. It appears that their book are not how it seems.

For some reason our management thinks that they or UAUA are not long for this world. That bodes well for the pilots. Because of this firm belief they will keep a lot of people on they do not need so they can react very quickly with a almost overnight capacity increase.
forgive me as I'm a little slow and have been up for 21 hours, but what two airlines are you referring to? Thanks.
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:25 PM
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I know UAUA is United, but what the heck is LLC?
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot
I know UAUA is United, but what the heck is LLC?
LCC, US Airways.
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Deez340
forgive me as I'm a little slow and have been up for 21 hours, but what two airlines are you referring to? Thanks.
LCC (it's their stock symbol) is USAir while UAUA is United.

acl65pilot: I'll grant you that they might have difficulties, but big airlines these days just don't fail. There always seems like someone will come along and prop a failing up, if only so the can continue to sell fuel, airplanes or regional flying to them (aka IAGblog: USAirways - will they or won't they? from 2005 )
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Old 06-26-2009, 09:29 PM
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I agree with iaflyer, when is the last time you saw a big airline go out of business? All they seem to do is drag the heathier carriers down with them and then they, too, declare bankruptcy. Now, I know credit is hard to find these days but I have a hard time thinking that any major carrier is going out of business any time soon. My guess is the "gubmint" will step in if that is what it takes. I guess we'll see what happens!

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Old 06-26-2009, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
As a Reserve on the 7ER in NYC, there aren't any flights in our bid package to cover - I guess it's in case other trips have a problem. The SC that start at 1200/1300 can't cover early morning trips because of Whitlow I guess.
Didn't the Whitlow interpretation apply to domestic operations only? Or is there a separate reserve and some guys would be good for a domestic trip only and other would be good for an int'l trip only?

Probably open a can of worms here with the questions because the aircraft you're on probably does both.
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Old 06-27-2009, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
Didn't the Whitlow interpretation apply to domestic operations only? Or is there a separate reserve and some guys would be good for a domestic trip only and other would be good for an int'l trip only?

Probably open a can of worms here with the questions because the aircraft you're on probably does both.

Whitlow is only for domestic, so for the second half of your 24 hours, you're pretty much only eligible for international.
I think he was referring to 5am short call to have someone available to cover domestic IROPs that morning, since the SC from the day before has Whitlowed out.
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