Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-27-2012, 01:08 PM
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I have a few buds that are making 100K their first year there and abouut 170K their second. Of course they are in HKG. I think that Fedelta has someone he knows over there as well that can back it up.
Also, many of the jobs in various parts of the world do not start on traditional US first year pay.
02-27-2012, 01:13 PM
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This is still a great job and I'm not whining, but it has to get better than it is or it's simply not worth it anymore to spend half your life in a hotel instead of with your family.
02-27-2012, 01:17 PM
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looking at 144 for second year on everything else, well our 12 year md-88 CAPTAIN is at 168, not that big of a difference when you consider you're talking about a newb at fedex and 12 year captain....
its a no brainer for alot of people to bail for that opportunity. I would consider it if i had "the right stuff"...especially if pay doesnt come back on this contract
02-27-2012, 01:20 PM
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I'm not sure I would be delighted, but I would take a voluntary furlough right around the april time frame. 5th year pay, working 85 hours per month, just squeaking in over 100K W-2 earnings, spending half my life in a hotel away from the family........I can replace this job no problem.
This is still a great job and I'm not whining, but it has to get better than it is or it's simply not worth it anymore to spend half your life in a hotel instead of with your family.
This is still a great job and I'm not whining, but it has to get better than it is or it's simply not worth it anymore to spend half your life in a hotel instead of with your family.
02-27-2012, 02:12 PM
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I saw an ALPA rep yesterday in the ATL airport (he identified himself and said he was going to DC for upcoming meetings). I asked him about the upcoming contract and possible raises and he stated "AMR has changed the game." I actually put him in his place saying "We already have done things in our BK that AMR has yet to do (PBS, loss of pensions, etc), and our airline is also nowhere close to AA in terms of losses. Our airline has done VERY well." He tried to back track of course, saying "Of course, of course" but I told him stearnly that the DPA was catching on, and if this future TA is weak, he should expect to go back to the line full time." He didn't like that, but I think he got the picture.
02-27-2012, 02:23 PM
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fedex second year is 118 on 727/757 and 144 on everything else, thats more than our 7 year 757 guys for 118.
looking at 144 for second year on everything else, well our 12 year md-88 CAPTAIN is at 168, not that big of a difference when you consider you're talking about a newb at fedex and 12 year captain....
its a no brainer for alot of people to bail for that opportunity. I would consider it if i had "the right stuff"...especially if pay doesnt come back on this contract
looking at 144 for second year on everything else, well our 12 year md-88 CAPTAIN is at 168, not that big of a difference when you consider you're talking about a newb at fedex and 12 year captain....
its a no brainer for alot of people to bail for that opportunity. I would consider it if i had "the right stuff"...especially if pay doesnt come back on this contract
The FDX 2nd year pay at a foreign domicile is quite a bit more than the hourly rate suggests. There are a number of incentives that come along with the FDA. The HKG guys are on widebody pay with a greater housing allowance. The CGN folks are on narrowbody/757 rates with slightly less housing allowance.
Lately any newhire could go to a foreign domicile, but not be assigned there without requesting it....pm me if you want details.
Regards,
BG
02-27-2012, 02:24 PM
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I saw an ALPA rep yesterday in the ATL airport (he identified himself and said he was going to DC for upcoming meetings). I asked him about the upcoming contract and possible raises and he stated "AMR has changed the game." I actually put him in his place saying "We already have done things in our BK that AMR has yet to do (PBS, loss of pensions, etc), and our airline is also nowhere close to AA in terms of losses. Our airline has done VERY well." He tried to back track of course, saying "Of course, of course" but I told him stearnly that the DPA was catching on, and if this future TA is weak, he should expect to go back to the line full time." He didn't like that, but I think he got the picture.
02-27-2012, 02:28 PM
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Or Cargo.
Or Florida.
Or <130 seat jets (that we fly).
Or Boston.
Or anywhere on the west coast.
Or Europe.
Or actually running an airline that operates airplanes.
There is only money in outsourcing and capacity pull downs that allow your competion room to grow and keep their costs perpetually below yours.
Canihazbonus now?
02-27-2012, 02:29 PM
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For the AMR pilots.
Dont let this psychological "play" get to you. Let them try to run an airline without properly compensated pilots. Everybody has their limit.
ALPA better not become management. I honestly think ALPA is tight lip and will come out of the gate for restoration plus inflation. If not, SHAME ON US.
TEN
Dont let this psychological "play" get to you. Let them try to run an airline without properly compensated pilots. Everybody has their limit.
ALPA better not become management. I honestly think ALPA is tight lip and will come out of the gate for restoration plus inflation. If not, SHAME ON US.
TEN
02-27-2012, 02:30 PM
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there is no money in hawaii.
Or cargo.
Or florida.
Or <130 seat jets (that we fly).
Or boston.
Or anywhere on the west coast.
Or europe.
Or actually running an airline that operates airplanes.
There is only money in outsourcing and capacity pull downs that allow your competion room to grow and keep their costs perpetually below yours.
Canihazbonus now?
Or cargo.
Or florida.
Or <130 seat jets (that we fly).
Or boston.
Or anywhere on the west coast.
Or europe.
Or actually running an airline that operates airplanes.
There is only money in outsourcing and capacity pull downs that allow your competion room to grow and keep their costs perpetually below yours.
Canihazbonus now?
Ten
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