tsquare

You are right, but that doesn't mean it can't be the stance of the negotiators. Some things truly are a non starter. Whether those positions are advertised or not is a different thing. That's why it is foolish to come out with a full page ad in the AJC and say C2K or no deal. How would YOU react if you were on the NMB, and when the time comes that you look at the preceding negotiations you see that the pilots walked away from the table when the company made an offer that was less than your ultimatum? I know how I would react... as an impartial arbitrator... "You pilots want to be released? um.. no, and you need drug testing immediately." Now THAT being said, it doesn't mean that we have to accept anything management offers in section 6. We just don't need to advertise our intentions. But then again, I guess it makes some people feel better to thump their chest and "stand up" to management... JMHO.

groundstop

Has the new reserve system changed the way trips get assigned to short call guys? For instance, if two guys start at the same time and a trip comes up, will the guy higher on the list get the trip (assume same bucket/days of availability)

TANSTAAFL

Wasn't suggesting we pay for anything. Word on the street is other employee groups are being offered this. We'll see.

As has been mentioned before I think the company will intentionally remain overstaffed when there is a relief valve per above in order to MD and demoralize the pilot group and lower expectations. I also expect ALPA talking heads to echo the doom and gloom.

tsquare

35 days until section 6 openers. Stand by folks.

georgetg

Dead on!

The other employee groups frequently invoke a "me too" clause. It doesn't cost them anything.
As you mentioned above, if the company doesn't offer early outs for pilots, they are showing their hand. Are we overstaffed or not.

If we're overstaffed surely the company would offer early-outs to the top tier front line employees, that's just simple business 101.
If the company chooses to not offer the package but does displace from the senior most equipment then that's a clear sign for setting the stage for negotiations.

Not offering early-outs for pilots and displacing is a sign the company has stopped constructive efforts and is building a negotiating position of contract talks. I would hope my representatives will change their course accordingly.

Cheers
George

UncleSam

I understand that they are having problems with the Expense Reports and hope to have it resolved in a few days.

georgetg

Right on my man, you're on our side right? ;-)

Cheers
George

UncleSam

Yes it has. Now the pilots available are listed in reverse seniority order for trips of the same length and within the same "bucket". So RAW means nothing within your bucket. It is all seniority now within a given bucket. Will probably work good in large categories but not make any difference in small ones where you often only have one pilot available for each length trip.

georgetg

Latest Summer International Schedule changes:

ATL CDG cancelled one flight out of two
ATL ATH cancelled
ATL CPH cancelled
ATL SVO cancelled
ATL PRG cancelled
ATL TLV cancelled
JFK TXL(BER) cancelled
JFK BUD cancelled
JFK MAN cancelled
JFK DUB reduced to one a day from 9 weekly, all 7ER
ATL LGW cancelled, reallocated ATL-LGW flights to serve ATL-LHR

ATL AMS added one flight
SEA AMS, 7ER service replace AF flight in March
JFK MEX added second flight 73G

DTW CDG summer seasonal service with 7ER

DTW AMS all 330 for summer
LAX NRT 744 service
LAX HND 330 service
MSP CDG 330 service
EWR AMS 330 service
NRT BKK 330 service

NRT PUS cancelled
NRT HKG 777 service

JFK-LHR, all 765 for summer
DTW-FRA, 765 for summer
JFK-SVO, 765 for summer
JFK-VCE, 765 for summer

JFK ACC, back to the 7ER
JFK PRG, back to the 7ER

Cheers
George

acl65pilot

Oh joy.

What has AF KLM and AZ added or cut for this summer? What has been up gauged?