Down to my last month of living in base for a bit and need to find a crash pad in NY. I've heard Que Gardens, but was wondering if anyone had any info. I'll only need it for 3 months, but I'll be on reserve.

Dont worry about where to live...worry about that Dispatchers can trump pilots on the jump seat....the PILOTS jump seat...check out the FOM.....it is BS

02-22-2012, 03:42 PM

#90022

buzzpat

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Position: Urban chicken rancher.

Posts: 6,070

Quote:

Originally Posted by Launchpad475

2 weeks ago there was talk about another early out with medical. its been 2 weeks and seems very quiet.

The intel coming from the LA lounge visit is that it probably won't be offered to pilots.

02-22-2012, 03:44 PM

#90023

johnso29

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Position: B757/767

Posts: 13,088

Quote:

Originally Posted by reddog25

Dont worry about where to live...worry about that Dispatchers can trump pilots on the jump seat....the PILOTS jump seat...check out the FOM.....it is BS

Ummmmm........what?

02-22-2012, 03:46 PM

#90024

georgetg

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Position: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift

Posts: 1,724

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzpat

The intel coming from the LA lounge visit is that it probably won't be offered to pilots.

Too bad we don't have a "me-too clause"

Cheers
George

02-22-2012, 03:49 PM

#90025

johnso29

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Position: B757/767

Posts: 13,088

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzpat

The intel coming from the LA lounge visit is that it probably won't be offered to pilots.

I guess we aren't overstaffed then.

02-22-2012, 03:52 PM

#90026

georgetg

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Position: Boeing Hearing and Ergonomics Lab Rat, Night Shift

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg

Just talked to a "Regional base Manager" who attended a lounge show today and he said we are keeping the DC9s an extra year, but those pilots that were going to move from the DC9 to the incoming MD90s will now stay on the DC9s and now widebody FOs will be displaced (mainly in DTW off of 744 and 777) to staff those incoming planes. Some of those widebody FOs will probably hold Capt on those or the DC9s, but the rest could result in a trickle down. The bid should come in early March.

Oh and we're on track for a profitable Q1 2012 vs a 400M loss in Q1 2011. That means that full year figures already are well ahead of 2011 and that's with tepid improvements in our economy as well as an easing in Europe. But somehow there will be those that will explain why we ought to be "happy to have a job" while we all move downhill and take one for the team. For even captain displaced that's a roughly 40% cut in pay in LAX...

But I'm glad we are reducing transatlantic capacity by 7-8% while AFKLM is doing 6.5%, it's not like we were below a target balance or anything.
Maybe we can celebrate a few more codeshare announcements for LAX along with developing the Virgin JV with improved [AS] connectivity...

Cheers
George

02-22-2012, 03:56 PM

#90027

newKnow

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Position: 765-A

Posts: 6,844

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I was actually trying to find a very prim and proper guy in something like 1800's napoleon attire and stumbled upon that. I saw the wings on the hat and took a shot. I'm glad I helped your diet today, regardless.

I should have gone the ALPA route with that beefy mustache. That is why I shouldn't be allowed to post before 8pm.

At some point, I'm going to have to fit into my uniform again, so thank you.

I'm just messin' with ya anyways, 80. You too, Buzz.

I've got to go and sharpen my skills. I just saw Super again, and he's making me look bad.

02-22-2012, 04:18 PM

#90028

Carl Spackler

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Position: 747-400 Captain

Posts: 12,487

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearjerk

T,

No need to lose any sleep over the "donut-hole, crack-pipe smoking DPA supporters".

With such a well thought out and fact based introduction, I'm sure the rest of this post will just be scintillating.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearjerk

The entire group, including Carl on this forum, are in the perfect position. Let me explain.

1. Assuming the contract opener is shared with the pilot group, Carl will come in and state the DPA could've/would've done "better".

It won't be, so it's a moot point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearjerk

2. If the opener isn't shared, and the TA is less than what people think the D-ALPA might've been able to negotiate, again Carl will say the DPA could've/would've done better.

No, because that would be unknowable since DPA wasn't negotiating. What I would say in your scenario is that DALPA did its own thing instead of the pilots will. Since the basis of your scenario is that the TA is less than what people think DALPA might have been able to negotiate...that by definition would mean that DALPA didn't understand its pilot's views.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearjerk

3. If the TA is adequate, in terms of what the pilot group has expressed they wanted, Carl will post........., yup you got it, the DPA could've done better.

No way. If that happened, I would post that DALPA did the right thing by their pilots and would no longer be seeking another union.

Carl

02-22-2012, 04:27 PM

#90029

Carl Spackler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearjerk

I have a great idea. Instead of the DPA supporters always talking about what their "independent, in-house union" could do better, why don't they concentrate on even getting enough ballots (read: support from the pilot group) submitted so that the idea itself can be brought to an election?

We have 4,400 cards earned from only a website and two small public events. This from a group that rarely particiaptes in numbers greater than 50% for anything. If you knew anything about polling, you'd know that an in-house union already has the majority. If DALPA called for a vote today (just to be sure), they'd lose in a landslide. Why? 50% wouldn't vote at all. And all 4,400 DPA members are some seriously energized folks. DALPA knows this and, as such, would never call for a vote.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gearjerk

The very fact that the DPA is still around, and hasn't offered any public support for our "current bargaining agent" shows Delta management how big of a "dis-unified group of buffoons we really are.

That's just highly opinionated rhetoric. The truth is that most DPA members have a high distrust of DALPA, but a much greater distrust of management. When it comes to a fight against management to improve the lives of our families, we'll be behind whatever entity has the legal right to bargain for us. Period. I know this is the latest popular straw man being floated by DALPA, but it's a lie.

Carl

02-22-2012, 04:36 PM

#90030

JobHopper

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Position: Nice while it lasted

Posts: 326

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29

So why does the New York State pay notice that I'm required to acknowledge say I'll make $0.00 per flight hour?

NY taxes income earned in NY by out of state residents. I grew up in NJ and my mom worked as a secretary in Manhattan for many years; NY always took a portion of her pay even though she filed her taxes in NJ.

Dunno, but this may be a method to protect you from that.