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Old 02-21-2012, 07:43 PM
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:54 PM
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Aerocrew Solutions
GoJet Airlines- Minimums of 700 TT and 100 Multi. Hiring for captains, 4500 TT.

Thanks to our rapid expansion at LGA & United outsourcing, GoJets is having to hire Captains off the street. Terrific for Teamster's members, those who did not complete High School, and those with "interesting" criminal background checks. If you've got 4,500 hauling skydivers, or just penciled in a log book, and the ability to fog a mirror, Delta has a job for you! Delta's network guy described GoJets as the "best of the worst."

So anyone wanting information about this terrific opportunity flying Delta passengers, here's the place for the deets:

Aero Crew Solutions - Pilot Job Fair

Oh' and GoJets pays 10% more than Delta mainline pays new hires with much lower health care costs. Wonderful furlough opportunity for those who just love flying jets in Delta colors.

Damned if this doesn't make me want to tell my mother, "... if you want to see your grandkids, you're going to have to fly to Dubai."

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Old 02-21-2012, 07:57 PM
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Man I was doing my homework searching for an Apc acceptable underboob pic and found a gold mine but we can't post such treasures on here anymore apparently....

Google image search "underboob", you're welcome too all that accept my challenge :-)
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Thanks to our rapid expansion at LGA & United outsourcing, GoJets is having to hire Captains off the street. Terrific for Teamster's members, those who did not complete High School, and those with "interesting" criminal background checks. If you've got 4,500 hauling skydivers, or just penciled in a log book, and the ability to fog a mirror, Delta has a job for you! Delta's network guy described GoJets as the "best of the worst."

So anyone wanting information about this terrific opportunity flying Delta passengers, here's the place for the deets:

Aero Crew Solutions - Pilot Job Fair

Oh' and GoJets pays 10% more than Delta mainline pays new hires with much lower health care costs. Wonderful furlough opportunity for those who just love flying jets in Delta colors.

Damned if this doesn't make me want to tell my mother, "... if you want to see your grandkids, you're going to have to fly to Dubai."
Rode the jumpseat with some ASA guys last week and they told me this was coming. Cockpit rumor was that GoJets bid below cost to get the contract and were having a heck of a time filling the seats for the flying they committed to, much of which will be done in jets taken away from ASA. Of course these guys were in a fine mood. Can't blame them.
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:35 PM
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Rode the jumpseat with some ASA guys last week and they told me this was coming. Cockpit rumor was that GoJets bid below cost to get the contract and were having a heck of a time filling the seats for the flying they committed to, much of which will be done in jets taken away from ASA. Of course these guys were in a fine mood. Can't blame them.
Apparently Emirates has a lot of interest from pilots in Atlanta. For us Delta pilots, it will be easy to find the location for the sim ride:
If you are interested in attending one of our Pilot Selection Programmes for commercial pilots, please email us with your preferred date and a short application letter at [email protected]

Atlanta Pilot Selection Programme (PSP)
USA Atlanta- PSP1 (Aptitude testing )

6th – 9th March 2012
09.00 am – 04.30 pm
Atlanta Hilton
USA Atlanta- PSP2 ( Simulator testing )

12th – 23rd March 2012
Timing: TBA
Delta Airlines Simulators
They will be back in June.

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Old 02-21-2012, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
Yo Carl, I like your line of thinking: not SWAPA pay rates, but the whole SWAPA contract! I wonder how the NMB would react.
The NMB would have no factual basis to claim that it is an unreasonable demand. SWAPA has it. SWA is our largest domestic competitor. SWA is a very profitable company. DAL is an even more profitable company. APA went wrong by demanding something from their unprofitable company at a time when there was nobody else comparable. The new NMB saw that as unreasonable.

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Likewise I'd like to see management's conniption.
Man would THAT be true. Their biggest problem with it would be knowing that it is a winning strategy with the NMB.

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Old 02-21-2012, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
Hi Guys,
I have a Q about reserve....I got in off a 3-day trip, and blocked in at 00:43, just past midnight, which would have put me off duty at 00:58, two minutes shy of 01:00, on an XX day-off. Am I due an extra day off, as this rotation had me "on the clock" on one of my XX days? Much thanks!
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Maybe someone knows but take a look at the PWA 23.S.14 and maybe that's your answer.
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash8widget
I don't understand this concept of taking the SWAPA contract in its entirety. For instance - if we had the SWAPA contract, word for word, then we wouldn't have pay scales for most of our fleets.
With SWAPA's pay, I'd be making about 100K more per year as a 747 Capt. Therefore, I wouldn't care if we pay banded the entire fleet. But a 737 Captain at DAL needs to paid at least the same as a 737 Captain at SWA. Period. If the company says that the only way they'll agree to that is if a 747 Captain makes the same, so be it. I'll just have to suffer with my 100K pay raise.

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That's ok, you say, we'll juts add a provision that says all of the other fleets will use the same pay scale.
Nope...see above.

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Heck, it would still be a pay raise for most pilots. The problem is, by doing that, you have, by necessity, modified the original contract and you no longer have the actual SWAPA contract.
No need for the pilots to want a modification. It is MANAGEMENT that would be wanting the modifications. And for every one that THEY demand, we could cost it out, then agree to their modification if we thought we could live with it. Regardless, you let MANAGEMENT be the ones having to scream for modifications.

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How about crew rest facilities? I bet there's no provision in the SWAPA contract for crew rest facilities - another thing that would have to be changed (or, do we just let mgt do their own thing wrt crew rest)
First of all, management is already attempting to do their own thing with our crew rest facilities. Second, there are regulations regarding crew rest facilities. On the vast majority of our wide body fleet, our rest area is a passenger seat. If the company gets its way with the A330, the only real crew rest areas will be on the 747/777. 34 airplanes. If the company was forced to sign off on the SWAPA contract, would they pull out those rest facilities too and give us passenger seats like the rest of the wide body fleet? They might. But in my view, it is an extremely small price to pay to achieve SWAPA's scope and pay.

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. 2 capts, 2 FO's on 12+ hour flights, isn't that in our contract as well? I guess we could go to 1 and 3 - captains are over rated any way. Again more changes.
Yup, the company could go to 1 capt and 3 f/o's. That means some captains like me would get bumped off to a smaller jet. But if we're pay banded...who cares?

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I agree - there is probably much of the SWAPA contract that would be great for DL pilots (their scope is hard to beat) - but the whole contract, in it's entirety, without modification? I don't see how that would even work.
It would work incredibly for the pilots. We would take some small hits, but make MAJOR gains in pay and scope. But would it work for management? Sure it would, but it would cost them way too much in their view. They like the huge cost advantage against SWA. An advantage given to them by us continuing to work for emergency/bankruptcy wages.

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