Columbia

Carl's new hire TOE video.

hoserpilot

Hey all. Just chillin here on vacation in London. Using the crew room wifi to keep in touch. Taking the wifey to Paris in a couple days. Can anyone here Please PM me the deets on where the crew lounge is and any access codes to get in and wifi codes at the crew hotel in Paris. Thanks APC brethren,


Hoserpilot


Ps. Got a great crew rate at both the Paris and London crew hotels.

PilotFrog

Anyone else do the new ALPA phone survey?

Seems to be a lot of Scope recapture questions, which was good.

nwaf16dude

Go to the lobby, stand with your back to the river and the bar on your left, walk to the end of the hallway on your right past the elevators and the gift shop. Crew room is the last room on the left at the end of the hall. Wifi instructions are on a poster on an easel in the crew room.

What's the Paris hotel charging you?

Bill Lumberg

Thanks ALPA for managing our expectations. DL has financials that are a lot better than all of those, for the last 3 years. Bag fees last year were over $900 million, and that is a new fee that goes straight to the bottom line without being taxed like a ticket. Southwest has NOT asked for paycuts from their people, and they were going to give the Airtran pilots the same rates but the MEC there pushed a bit too hard for the SLI, but the offer was there in offer #1. You can stick your head in the sand and not see how well the airline is doing, or you can compare ourselves to airlines that just don't have the same pricing power, etc. You also are forgetting that we are aiming to bring the debt down to $10 billion (from 18 Billion) by 2013, which will then give us an EXTRA $500 million per year that now won't be paid in interest payments. Can we have part of that? You say NO, because you didn't really think about that, or chose not to even include that in YOUR reality. How about a 10-15% raise the first year, and then after the debt is paid down maybe larger chunks the next few? Can you possibly think about that? Are you management or ALPA? If you are ALPA and IGNORE reality, you will be replaced! Just try giving a weak TA, and see what happens.

nyc7erb

If you have the right qualifications and skills, you can find a job paying that. Unfortunately, pilots do not have the types of skillsets that pay that kind of money.... (to start). I did not say that a pilot leaving his job would be able to make that kind of money. What I did say was that people are commanding much higher salaries than pilots are and they are doing it earlier in their careers.

I suggest that you do some research to see what others are making out there. You would be quite surprised.

nyc7erb

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clancy

So that Venn diagram would look like what?

NuGuy

That may be true if you majored in underwater fire prevention, Nepalese basket weaving, business or aviation "science" for your undergrad.

If you majored in something worthwhile, like math, engineering, or some of the sciences (not the social type), then you can get spooled up and back into worthwhile earnings in as little as 2 years.

It might take going back to school for a bit, but it is completely doable.

Nu

clancy

Bill L. Bag fees are not some sort of new discovered revenue that goes straight to the bottom line. Delta may have had to lower fares to get on the first page of Expedia, and used the bag fee to recapture lost revenue. I'd guess the part of bag fees that makes it to the profit line is the amount Delta saves in taxes.

Southwest management hasn't asked their employees for a pay cut. Yet.

We should get a bigger up front pay raise than 10%. That's too low.