Originally Posted by Eck4Life

Probably right here at DAL. Would be no surprise to learn there are those types on our seniority list. I've personally flown with a guy multiple times that regularly plucks his eyebrows and eats them!

Originally Posted by TOGA LK

I guess this guy may have a point if we were truly that professional; the reality is we have a long way to mature as an airline. Im just wondering if we will actually kill people before leadership focuses on something a bit more than image. Every time I hear a LCA rationalize the way we train based on costs, the respect is subsequently limited to the four stripes. Im laughing at these line check blitz desks that have no participants, three years later and the average line pilot feels engaging one of these drones is more of a brainwashing session than anything constructive.

Now wear that hat!

Originally Posted by Ferd149

I agree with you and Frank. While I don't wear them anymore, I do agree long sleeves look better with a jacket. That's what I wore all my USAF days....jacket = long sleeve shirt and of course a tie. Short sleeve shirt = no tie.

Now, if we REALLY want to start a 100 page discussion........lets imagine an option of short sleeve shirts and no tie. Then we could get into a discussion of V neck t-shirts vs crew neck t-shirts. I was actually at a reception once and listened to two 3 Stars give each other $hit about their t-shirts with no tie

All in good fun.........I'll wear my hat till it's optional, which ain't going to happen anytime soon.

Ferd

Originally Posted by Ferd149

I'll just remind you that George Patton would disagree with you. I agree we have a long way to go getting our training and procedures to fully settle into the merger. But, militarys through the centuries have known that there is something to "look sharp, be sharp"

JMHO,
Ferd

Originally Posted by TOGA LK

Patton vs Chesty Puller, no comparison. In fact the modern military has ditched black shoes and the older BDUs so soldiers would spend less time polishing and dry cleaning field uniforms. I would like to think Delta has evolved since the days of Patton.

Originally Posted by Xray678

I agree that ALPA will decide their own fate. However, I think a lot of pilots have a very unrealistic idea of what this TA will bring. SWA rates will not happen.

Originally Posted by Ferd149

I agree with you and Frank. While I don't wear them anymore, I do agree long sleeves look better with a jacket. That's what I wore all my USAF days....jacket = long sleeve shirt and of course a tie. Short sleeve shirt = no tie.

Now, if we REALLY want to start a 100 page discussion........lets imagine an option of short sleeve shirts and no tie. Then we could get into a discussion of V neck t-shirts vs crew neck t-shirts. I was actually at a reception once and listened to two 3 Stars give each other $hit about their t-shirts

All in good fun.........I'll wear my hat till it's optional, which ain't going to happen anytime soon.

Ferd

Originally Posted by TOGA LK

This is the mentallity that amazes me. Wear the hat, greet the passengers! What is really happening is our quality of training and standardization has gone out the window. While we lead the industry in taxi collisions, DCA airspace incursions, altitude and route violations, runway excursions (you never hear about them), landing on taxiways at home base, averaging about one takeoff every other month with the flaps up, a preflight where culturally incorrect information is deliberately entered before receiving a clearance, a culture where it's not the norm for the FO to verify or back up the captain (after all captain is god and incapable of mistakes), distance learning for ground school and train by bulletins and memos.

I guess this guy may have a point if we were truly that professional; the reality is we have a long way to mature as an airline. Im just wondering if we will actually kill people before leadership focuses on something a bit more than image. Every time I hear a LCA rationalize the way we train based on costs, the respect is subsequently limited to the four stripes. Im laughing at these line check blitz desks that have no participants, three years later and the average line pilot feels engaging one of these drones is more of a brainwashing session than anything constructive.

Now wear that hat!