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Old 02-16-2012, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
What UsAir did was pave the way for a 100 seat turboprop. They forced the New York market to fly on 37 seat props because they were paid for in the 80s and were fuel efficient in the New England airspace.

ATR pilots from ASA like to say they burn the same amount of fuel on a given route in a 50 seat CRJ200 that they did in a 66 seat ATR-72.

A 100 seater that's as fuel efficient as a jet cruising in the low teens and without the maintenance issues of the Q400s will be a winner... imo. ATR is looking at it. Will passengers take it? They pay for bags now. They flew Dash 8s out of LGA for decades. I think they will.

And when that thing comes out, I welcome it. I'd bid it.

Subject to Gloopy and George's review.
Remove a row (still giving it a killer CASM), install premium seats with foot rests on the seat in front, state of the art noise attenuation (the Q400 has older gen attenuation and is already 1 db quieter at cruise than an RJ), put TV's and chargers at every seat and throw in a perk here or there (like free internets or a bagle or whatever) and the passengers will fly it in droves.

Will we fly it though? That's the question.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Remove a row (still giving it a killer CASM), install premium seats with foot rests on the seat in front, state of the art noise attenuation (the Q400 has older gen attenuation and is already 1 db quieter at cruise than an RJ), put TV's and chargers at every seat and throw in a perk here or there (like free internets or a bagle or whatever) and the passengers will fly it in droves.

Will we fly it though? That's the question.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
I'm looking at a layover at the (deleted) Courtyard. In the comments of the rotation it says "overblock status." What does this mean? Should I bring some bedbug fumigation paraphernalia?
Bacon,
If you look for "Crewmember Layover Security Best Practices" you'll see why they erase hotel information here, the company said don't share it. I think there was a bulletin along the same lines of not sharing hotel information. Sure it doesn't take much to hang out at most airports and see where crews go but at least that takes some effort in comparison to internet trolling.

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Well, then you might as well delete my entire original post. Thanks for the help.

But by all means, any college football blabber is completely legit.
As to college football "blabber", I'll let that last part slide, but I do have some SEC college football talk.

In the past year Alabama fans have killed Auburn's trees and teabagged an LSU fan who was passed out sleeping in a Krystal.
That's quite a year.

Two rivals down, 11 to go in a new 14 team SEC. What sheer unexpected and outright depraved act is in store from the diabolical and twisted mind of an Alabama fan for the other 11?

It's easy to figure out, you just have to put yourself in the shoes of a Bammer. So I sniffed gasoline for an hour and then wrote "your gay" one hundred times in a row on an Auburn message board. Then I intentionally failed an online GED test. Voila, I was a Bammer.

Here's what I foresee.

1. Ole Miss. Burning down the Grove is an easy call, but I think that's too easy at this point. No, the attack will be more unexpected than that. So William Faulkner statue in Oxford's square is doomed. Bama fans will topple the statue and drag the head around the square. While driving, the Bama fan, confused as to who the statue actually honored, will hold his head out the window screaming, "Take that Archie Manning!"

2. Texas A&M. You'd think it would be hard to surprise an Aggie, what with all the uniforms worn around on campus on a daily basis. Sadly, you'd be wrong. Most future officers protect us from those assaults that are logical in nature. Alabama fans, the most illogical people in the Southland, don't strike where you'd expect them to strike.That's why the yell leader that an Alabama fan kidnaps, tortures in his double wide, and ultimately tattoos a large Bear Bryant tattoo on his back while the Bammer yells "you'll never be good enough to have a Bear Bryant at your school!" Hmmm. The irony.

3. Mississippi State. You might be thinking, it's Starkville, this is the only place a bomb could go off and improve the scenery. So they're going to leave this alone to punish the State fans.

4. Tsquare's Tennessee. Remember when Nick Saban said that Derek Dooley would be a great coach in the SEC? Yeah, the Vols were the first victim of Alabama's fan assault only nobody knew the campaign had started yet. But your dog is dead. You'll find him in a Terrence Cody jersey.

5. Arkansas. The most disturbing things imaginable are in store for your hog. And that's before it's turned to bacon.

6. Georgia. You'd probably think they'll kill UGA. You're wrong. Inbreeding will take care of that before the dog is two years old. So instead they're going to attack Georgia's true national treasure, the fake boobs on the undergrad population. (In case you aren't aware Georgia is the cleavage capital of the South). "Rammer Jammer Yellowhammer."

7. Vanderbilt. Expect a bag of poo on fire on the fraternity house footsteps. Only the Vandy frat guys will sleep through the doorbell ringing and the fraternity house will burn down with all the frat boys inside.

8. South Carolina. The CockaBooses are done for.

9. Florida. Mr. Two Bits officially retired in 2008. And by "retired" we mean this -- Alabama fans killed him and fed him to the alligators in Lake Alice in 2009. RIP, Mr. Two Bits.

10. Kentucky. Since Kentucky fans don't actually care about football, Bama fans are always stumped by what do to the Wildcats. But Bear Bryant once coached there, winning Kentucky an SEC title in football in 1950. So diabolical Alabama fans will do what Alabama fans do, the Bear won a title at Kentucky? Hell, meet Alabama's 19th national title! Kentucky fans will still not notice so frustrated Alabama fans will put Spike 80DF in John Calipari's hair gel.

11. Missouri. Luckily for Missouri, most Alabama fans are not aware that this state exists. (This is the case for every state outside the South. Most Bama fans believe everything above Tennessee is Canada). The remaining few Bama fans that are aware of the state's existence will travel to Columbia for a game this fall. Considering they have already killed the trees and teabagged the other two Tigers respectively, danger awaits the third Tiger in Columbia. Let's just say it involves Gary Pinkel, a jumbo glass of wine and roofies.

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Old 02-16-2012, 06:39 AM
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Remove a row (still giving it a killer CASM), install premium seats with foot rests on the seat in front, state of the art noise attenuation (the Q400 has older gen attenuation and is already 1 db quieter at cruise than an RJ), put TV's and chargers at every seat and throw in a perk here or there (like free internets or a bagle or whatever) and the passengers will fly it in droves.

Will we fly it though? That's the question.
"I didn't [fill-in-the-blank] to one day fly a tailless Airbus, a retread Douglas jet, a jet made by a prop company or for [redacted] fly a real prop at Delta Air Lines!?!?!?"

I think that's how an email or two will go to the negotiating committee.

Although wasn't that kind of the goal of Airbus with Embraer? Try to keep Embraer from encroaching in on larger aircraft territory than the E-190 and instead get them to saddle up with ATR and build that 100 seat prop under a consortium led by Airbus. The Airbus E-205/ATR. Made that name up. Can you tell?
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Phuz
Even old people get SJS.
But do they get STPS?

I do. Actually, I just have shiny scope syndrome.

And I don't even really care if its shiny.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:42 AM
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Hey Guys, Where do we put in our golden day request in I crew?
Under Bids/Initial Bids/PBS Reserve Golden Day Bids
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
"Us? Fly a non Boeing? Only if it's an Airbus or Douglas product and even then...

but a prop? Are you nuts??!? It's bad enough you've ever even mentioned a jet made by a prop company, but a true prop?! I didn't [fill-in-the-blank] to one day fly a prop!?!?!?"


I think that's how an email or two will go to the negotiating committee.
A prop? Gawd no. Ew.

No, we should never fly a prop. But a next-gen geared external whisper fan...

Besides a quick wiki says the C-130 can hold 92 pax in what I'm sure is a cattle car config. Spread it out with modern exit row requirements and whatnot plus install a first class and some galleys, etc and its probably close enough to 76. We wouldn't outsource a Herc, would we?



Then again.....



and........

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Old 02-16-2012, 06:52 AM
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Ahh...the DC 9-10, the "Original RJ's". I flew it, loved it! Much more fun than the Mad Dog ever was!

Now, tell me again why we let those routes (flown by newer versions of the same thing) get contracted out to someone else?

Raise you hand if you voted Yes to that...then slap yourself across the face with the raised hand.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:54 AM
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Stock split and CEO calling it quits at Alaska.
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