Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-14-2012, 02:52 PM
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I'll type it up.
The short version is that we're making tons of money and things are great, but we can't pay for (fill in the blank with what you want).
Longer version coming.
The most exciting "new" news is that they are going to develop the software to "page-nate" so we have "paigenation" which means we can use laser printers sometime in the next year, when the software gurus get around to it. There you have it ... the latest and greatest of Delta. The eventual retirement of dot matrix printers (I'm really not kidding)
Oh, and we will turn our first 737-900 back in to Boeing so they can use it to experiment with toilets. That's how excited we are about new airplane deliveries (not kidding about that either).
The short version is that we're making tons of money and things are great, but we can't pay for (fill in the blank with what you want).
Longer version coming.
The most exciting "new" news is that they are going to develop the software to "page-nate" so we have "paigenation" which means we can use laser printers sometime in the next year, when the software gurus get around to it. There you have it ... the latest and greatest of Delta. The eventual retirement of dot matrix printers (I'm really not kidding)
Oh, and we will turn our first 737-900 back in to Boeing so they can use it to experiment with toilets. That's how excited we are about new airplane deliveries (not kidding about that either).
The news on this thread lately is bumming me out. Reminds me of the time my parents made me ride the Sad-Go-Round when I was a chubby kid.
02-14-2012, 03:34 PM
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2/14/12 Crew Room Brief
Tried to edit this so no sensitive information would be published. We are over staffed. A leave would be nice, getting fired would not. MODS IF YOU SEE ANYTHING HERE, FEEL FREE TO DELETE IT.
That pretty much takes the network comments off line. However, the whole world is doing very well. The network guy thinks he's doing a great job. Outsourcing is being flown by the "best of the worst." He clearly tried to play to a crowd that mostly was unimpressed with our outsourcing.*
No need for any airplanes outside of those we all know about. No bids on AA's lease returns. No merger news. The 737 will replace older 757's & 767's on the order of about 60% replacement and 40% upgrade of Airbus and Douglas equipment. No hiring. The trend will be displacement to staff the MD88's.
JG:
BB Comment / Opinion: We have 255 100 seat jets in operation already. We are the World expert on the subject. Further, Bombardier will guarantee the cost of the airplanes and sustain performance guarantees. The uncertainty management has is who will fly those airplanes.
The scope gap will make upgauging LGA difficult. A 15% increase in capacity is "too much." Yet, upgauging from GoJets to Delta metal would be a 100% increase. Frankly, I just do not believe we will upgauge much of anything.
That pretty much takes the network comments off line. However, the whole world is doing very well. The network guy thinks he's doing a great job. Outsourcing is being flown by the "best of the worst." He clearly tried to play to a crowd that mostly was unimpressed with our outsourcing.*
No need for any airplanes outside of those we all know about. No bids on AA's lease returns. No merger news. The 737 will replace older 757's & 767's on the order of about 60% replacement and 40% upgrade of Airbus and Douglas equipment. No hiring. The trend will be displacement to staff the MD88's.
JG:
- More line checks
- Single Log Book
- Pagination for Laser printed flight plans
- No money for EFB. Perhaps an regulatory change allowing utilization of personal devices. Will require you to "containerize" your device. Very neat Special Airport data will be available. See MEX for example.
- N&S Flight Attendant integration in May. Already had merged crews fly together.
- 200 surplus pilots distributed throughout the system.
- FTDT reduces credit by 1% (I clarified, yes, 1% fewer pilots) depending on margins built in.
- Reducing capacity in 2012. Flat going forward.
- Next AE needs 40 MD88 A, 20 MD88 B in the near term. Had planned to get these from the DC-9, but the DC-9 might not go away. If the DC9 stays then pilots will have to be displaced into these positions. Over a year and half we will need about 200 pilots on the MD88 from the 777, 747 and 767. (see how that math works out?)
- Possible ATL DC9 base
- Not sure if the next bid will be a 12 month bid, or not. A lot hinges on the DC9 decision.
- No hiring planned
BB Comment / Opinion: We have 255 100 seat jets in operation already. We are the World expert on the subject. Further, Bombardier will guarantee the cost of the airplanes and sustain performance guarantees. The uncertainty management has is who will fly those airplanes.
The scope gap will make upgauging LGA difficult. A 15% increase in capacity is "too much." Yet, upgauging from GoJets to Delta metal would be a 100% increase. Frankly, I just do not believe we will upgauge much of anything.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 02-14-2012 at 04:02 PM.
02-14-2012, 03:38 PM
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Roll your eyes as much as you want, but not everybody stays out of the country for 330 days...mostly they think they do, but many have been hit by the full tax burden. You would think everybody would learn the first time, but it is not easy to do when you would really like to be in the U.S. (Talking about every profession, not just pilots).
02-14-2012, 03:41 PM
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Doing my CQ CD.
Either that's one ugly pilot, or some one needs a haircut.
Either that's one ugly pilot, or some one needs a haircut.
02-14-2012, 03:45 PM
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Basically, the Volaris codeshare announced two years ago was a trial run at international service without the IT upgrades and operational headaches of going international. Our revenue people liked it, and to some extent it drove the decision to buy AirTran.
To suggest that SWA will not go international because we don't have the equipment and management only wants to outsource to lower cost labor is a complete fib. The idea that our reservation system alone would have been capable of booking international SWA passengers 2 years ago is laughable. It took them about a year to even be able to book a ticket on Volaris. We still can't do it on the SWA system, that's why all of the new Mexico routes that have been announced are AirTran. We will not be using AirTran's reservation system much longer, I think that you'll see some sort of outside IT contractor with a huge project over the next two years.
SWA (via AirTran) has recently announced a lot of new routes in Mexico, the home of Volaris. All codeshares combined are limited to a maximum of 4% of SWA ASM's and the company is well below that number. If they wanted to announce more Volaris codeshare they could have done it instead of announcing new SWA/AirTran routes. To be honest, I don't think that the codeshare has been all that successful because the Volaris airplanes aren't allowed to have anything on them that suggests they are Southwest Airplanes. Our website has to have the Volaris name prominently displayed on the screen at all times, and IMO that has not been appealing to the average US tourist.
The short term plan (now) is expanding near international (Mexico and Caribbean) through the existing AirTran systems. The medium term plan (5 year) is international service to Central and South America down to Brazil with 737's. Europe and Asia will require a different aircraft, and I believe that will take at least 5 years.
I think that it's great that senior guys over there are concerned about codeshare and scope because it affects the junior guys the most. In the current environment, I can't imagine SWAPA accepting more codeshares. I realize that past performance is no guarantee of future success, but I can tell you that codeshare relief for the company isn't going to happen in the next contract. Do they want it? Absolutely.
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02-14-2012, 03:46 PM
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Almost forgot from the Crew Room brief. ...
Oh and Gary Kelly had to fly Delta to get back to Dallas last week. He flew First Class
Oh and Gary Kelly had to fly Delta to get back to Dallas last week. He flew First Class
02-14-2012, 03:58 PM
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Looks like an excellent alternative to Kew Gardens shuttle for those of us shopping displacement options:
The speeding, non judgmental high five is just what an underemployed middle aged remnant from a failed outsourcing scheme needs to feel better about his poor choices in life.
02-14-2012, 03:59 PM
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That's Rasta Pilot, on his way to Montego Bay, Mon!
BB, thanks for the info on the JG lounge brief. The funniest part (for me) is, they just had record earnings, yet we STILL don't seem to have money for an EFB...?
YGTBSM!
02-14-2012, 04:05 PM
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Carl,
Basically, the Volaris codeshare announced two years ago was a trial run at international service without the IT upgrades and operational headaches of going international. Our revenue people liked it, and to some extent it drove the decision to buy AirTran.
To suggest that SWA will not go international because we don't have the equipment and management only wants to outsource to lower cost labor is a complete fib. The idea that our reservation system alone would have been capable of booking international SWA passengers 2 years ago is laughable. It took them about a year to even be able to book a ticket on Volaris. We still can't do it, that's why all of the new Mexico routes that have been announced are AirTran. We will not be using AirTran's reservation system much longer, I think that you'll see some sort of outside IT contractor with a huge project over the next two years.
SWA (via AirTran) has recently announced a lot of new routes in Mexico, the home of Volaris. All codeshares combined are limited to a maximum of 4% of SWA ASM's and the company is well below that number. If they wanted to announce more Volaris codeshare they could have done it instead of announcing new SWA/AirTran routes. To be honest, I don't think that the codeshare has been all that successful because the Volaris airplanes aren't allowed to have anything on them that suggests they are Southwest Airplanes. Our website has to have the Volaris name prominently displayed on the screen at all times, and IMO that has not been appealing to the average US tourist.
The short term plan (now) is expanding near international (Mexico and Caribbean) through the existing AirTran systems. The medium term plan (5 year) is international service to Central and South America down to Brazil with 737's. Europe and Asia will require a different aircraft, and I believe that will take at least 5 years.
I think that it's great that senior guys over there are concerned about codeshare and scope because it affects the junior guys the most. In the current environment, I can't imagine SWAPA accepting more codeshares. I realize that past performance is no guarantee of future success, but I can tell you that codeshare relief for the company isn't going to happen in the next contract. Do they want it? Absolutely.
Basically, the Volaris codeshare announced two years ago was a trial run at international service without the IT upgrades and operational headaches of going international. Our revenue people liked it, and to some extent it drove the decision to buy AirTran.
To suggest that SWA will not go international because we don't have the equipment and management only wants to outsource to lower cost labor is a complete fib. The idea that our reservation system alone would have been capable of booking international SWA passengers 2 years ago is laughable. It took them about a year to even be able to book a ticket on Volaris. We still can't do it, that's why all of the new Mexico routes that have been announced are AirTran. We will not be using AirTran's reservation system much longer, I think that you'll see some sort of outside IT contractor with a huge project over the next two years.
SWA (via AirTran) has recently announced a lot of new routes in Mexico, the home of Volaris. All codeshares combined are limited to a maximum of 4% of SWA ASM's and the company is well below that number. If they wanted to announce more Volaris codeshare they could have done it instead of announcing new SWA/AirTran routes. To be honest, I don't think that the codeshare has been all that successful because the Volaris airplanes aren't allowed to have anything on them that suggests they are Southwest Airplanes. Our website has to have the Volaris name prominently displayed on the screen at all times, and IMO that has not been appealing to the average US tourist.
The short term plan (now) is expanding near international (Mexico and Caribbean) through the existing AirTran systems. The medium term plan (5 year) is international service to Central and South America down to Brazil with 737's. Europe and Asia will require a different aircraft, and I believe that will take at least 5 years.
I think that it's great that senior guys over there are concerned about codeshare and scope because it affects the junior guys the most. In the current environment, I can't imagine SWAPA accepting more codeshares. I realize that past performance is no guarantee of future success, but I can tell you that codeshare relief for the company isn't going to happen in the next contract. Do they want it? Absolutely.
Carl
02-14-2012, 04:13 PM
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