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Old 02-14-2012, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Even worse than that, how much of his seniority was lost?.......errrrrr......"Taken from him"?

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Yeah, he's a 73 CA in ATL now but is being bumped to the 717 in TPA. He was definitely not a happy camper. I asked him about the high percentage of AT guys that voted for it and his response was something along the lines of "when there's a gun to your head, you tell them what they want to hear."
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by freightguy
Yeah... Anderson can have his multi-million dollar bonus. But as much as he wants his bonus, I want out of my bankruptcy contract. Re-instate my pay + inflation first, if we have so much of money to throw around for management bonuses.

It's not just Mr. Anderson who runs this company. If we make a mistake and lose an airplane, it can easily wipe out around half a decade of gains for an airline. We have more at stake everyday in the cockpit than what Anderson has on his desk.
Don't get me wrong, I want a great contract too. We are due for one. It just does no good to get into all that angst about Mr Anderson and the executives. There is absolutely NOTHING you or I or DALPA can do about it. And besides, the amount of money that they get in bonuses is nothing compared to the other 70,000 employees.
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Old 02-14-2012, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
DAL will once again be on top where we belong. .
"Where we belong?" is this our divine mandate? Give me a break.

What exactly do you base this on? What signs or signals indicate to you any potential to obtain the contract we demand? Because, minus that contract, Delta will never be "on top" with an underpaid, overworked, outsourced, and p!ssed off pilot group.

And keep in mind that DALPA's Stockholm syndrome-driven agenda is generally not a successful negotiating strategy.


Are you in management?

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Old 02-14-2012, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Yeah, he's a 73 CA in ATL now but is being bumped to the 717 in TPA. He was definitely not a happy camper. I asked him about the high percentage of AT guys that voted for it and his response was something along the lines of "when there's a gun to your head, you tell them what they want to hear."
I think I'm gonna change my avatar back. There is something to be said about that offer that can't be refused.. But, other than that, he's got to be happy, right?
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Old 02-14-2012, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

I can tell you that every person that I know that works there does not pay any US taxes up to the 87.5K limit. They have tax attorney's here do their filings to make sure it is above board as well.

The ones doing the commuting contracts in Asia will not pay federal taxes but generally pay state income taxes if applicable.
It doesn't matter what any tax attorney does, as long as one never gets audited. Under the 'Physical Presence Test', the moment you go below the required 330 days out-of-country, you are liable to pay U.S. Federal Tax on all earned income (BTW, the exclusion is $95,100 for 2012). If you use a valid passport, the government knows exactly when you entered and when you left. Whether or not a tax attorney can make sure everything is above board, they can do nothing to affect when you log in and out of the country.

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Old 02-14-2012, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by flyawAAy

It doesn't matter what any tax attorney does, as long as one never gets audited. Under the 'Physical Presence Test', the moment you go below the required 330 days out-of-country, you are liable to pay U.S. Federal Tax on all earned income (BTW, the exclusion is $95,100 for 2012). If you use a valid passport, the government knows exactly when you entered and when you left. Whether or not a tax attorney can make sure everything is above board, they can do nothing to affect when you log in and out of the country.
Everyone stays out of the country for the 330 days. Duh!

You take your leave here, and you take for seven day breaks somewhere else like Australia etc.

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Old 02-14-2012, 02:25 PM
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Could someone please post the highlights of todays Atl Base meeting?

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Old 02-14-2012, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
"Where we belong?" is this our divine mandate? Give me a break.

What exactly do you base this on? What signs or signals indicate to you any potential to obtain the contract we demand? Because, minus that contract, Delta will never be "on top" with an underpaid, overworked, outsourced, and p!ssed off pilot group.

And keep in mind that DALPA's Stockholm syndrome-driven agenda is generally not a successful negotiating strategy.


Are you in management?
No, I am not management. Isn't your low doughnut light on steady?
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by av8ohr
Anybody got a summary of what JG had to say in the ATL ops visit today?
I'll type it up.

The short version is that we're making tons of money and things are great, but we can't pay for (fill in the blank with what you want).

Longer version coming.

The most exciting "new" news is that they are going to develop the software to "page-nate" so we have "paigenation" which means we can use laser printers sometime in the next year, when the software gurus get around to it. There you have it ... the latest and greatest of Delta. The eventual retirement of dot matrix printers (I'm really not kidding)

Oh, and we will turn our first 737-900 back in to Boeing so they can use it to experiment with toilets. That's how excited we are about new airplane deliveries (not kidding about that either).
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
I'll type it up.

The short version is that we're making tons of money and things are great, but we can't pay for (fill in the blank with what you want).

Longer version coming.

The most exciting "new" news is that they are going to develop the software to "page-nate" so we have "paigenation" which means we can use laser printers sometime in the next year, when the software gurus get around to it. There you have it ... the latest and greatest of Delta. The eventual retirement of dot matrix printers (I'm really not kidding)

Oh, and we will turn our first 737-900 back in to Boeing so they can use it to experiment with toilets. That's how excited we are about new airplane deliveries (not kidding about that either).
Boeing definitely needs to study the 737 toilet thing...they haven't figured it out yet (and I'm not kidding either).
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