Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-14-2012, 07:17 AM
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OK, you've adequately explained how this code share is different than our DCI contracts, and that it might be saving SWA money. But it doesn't address the time problem associated with getting your own route authority and gates, etc. If SWA is still using this code share and not their own equipment in another year or two, then you'll be right. My bet is that they won't. We'll see.
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02-14-2012, 07:19 AM
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02-14-2012, 07:24 AM
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You can do your own math problem. Do the same over all labor groups. Then look at those "guaranteed profits" that have pushed PCL to restructure either in or out of court, and caused SKYW Inc to start losing money. And remember we're working for a less than 3% margin business all in. btw, that's good news, it means we're profitable.
Maybe the conventional forum wisdom on "guaranteed profits" doesn't stand up to the light of 10-K's...
Maybe the conventional forum wisdom on "guaranteed profits" doesn't stand up to the light of 10-K's...
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02-14-2012, 07:26 AM
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02-14-2012, 07:27 AM
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At least two from my new hire class (2010) have already left and several more are actively interviewing elsewhere.
There is an incredible pay disparity between what we are paid and what our brothers at SWA and FedEx are paid. It's been interesting to watch so many on APC be unwilling to accept that.
There is an incredible pay disparity between what we are paid and what our brothers at SWA and FedEx are paid. It's been interesting to watch so many on APC be unwilling to accept that.
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02-14-2012, 07:27 AM
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I am not quite sure about that. Of all the guys I know that left, only one even ponders if he should have stayed at DAL. The others don't even look back.
DAL is still one of the better airlines to work. We have a pretty good opportunity for some substantial gains and changing employers is like changing lanes in a traffic jam - what looked so promising can turn sour very fast.
All of that said, I think the important point is that people are in fact leaving DAL. This was totally unheard of prior to 911. This is no longer the DAL of old.
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I am not quite sure about that. Of all the guys I know that left, only one even ponders if he should have stayed at DAL. The others don't even look back.
DAL is still one of the better airlines to work. We have a pretty good opportunity for some substantial gains and changing employers is like changing lanes in a traffic jam - what looked so promising can turn sour very fast.
All of that said, I think the important point is that people are in fact leaving DAL. This was totally unheard of prior to 911. This is no longer the DAL of old.
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On a separate thought, UCal's profit sharing was $265M or 5% of employee's pay, while DAL's was $264M and 4.85%. Remarkably similar.
02-14-2012, 07:30 AM
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Does anyone know how the buddy passes are prioritized at the gate? If I issue a pass it goes by my hire date, but what if my buddy is sitting at the gate with a buddy pass rider issued from a regional and they had a hire date earlier then my DL hire date? Does the regional buddy pass go ahead of mine?
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Blockbuster: Boeing locks in largest-ever order
Blockbuster deal: Boeing locks in its largest-ever order - USATODAY.com
Blockbuster deal: Boeing locks in its largest-ever order - USATODAY.com
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Even more so when you compare their advancement to our (what is it now, 4 or 5 bids) which have seen junior members displaced. That's what looks most bleak at the moment.
Delta has a very rich history of being an excellent employer. Delta likes to recall those romantic notions about itself. Today I again heard Richard Anderson's recorded message about sitting at the desk of C.E. Woolman. That resonates with long time Delta people, like my family. The reality is that CE Wollman would not approve of Delta's outsourcing. He had pride in doing this job better and believed only Delta employees could do it best.
Delta has a very rich history of being an excellent employer. Delta likes to recall those romantic notions about itself. Today I again heard Richard Anderson's recorded message about sitting at the desk of C.E. Woolman. That resonates with long time Delta people, like my family. The reality is that CE Wollman would not approve of Delta's outsourcing. He had pride in doing this job better and believed only Delta employees could do it best.
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