Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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If you were hired at DAL, how can someone hired after you at DAL be senior to you at DAL? Or did you mean someone born after you was hired before you?
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Hey Denny,
My grandfather built the Mars and many other aircraft at the Martin plant in Middle River, Md. They have a area called Martin's Lagoon at the end of the river with a seaplane ramp. If you ever fly into BWI, most likely you will be vectored to the north over the Martin State Airport on a downwind for RWY 33L at BWI. The Lagoon and ramp are visible from the air.
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When I was a kid, they were working on the space program at the same factory.
My grandfather built the Mars and many other aircraft at the Martin plant in Middle River, Md. They have a area called Martin's Lagoon at the end of the river with a seaplane ramp. If you ever fly into BWI, most likely you will be vectored to the north over the Martin State Airport on a downwind for RWY 33L at BWI. The Lagoon and ramp are visible from the air.
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When I was a kid, they were working on the space program at the same factory.
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I may be wrong but I believe the Mars was the biggest operational seaplane ever built. He flew seaplanes out of Whidbey, Alameda and a couple of other places before going to PAX River. I remember him telling me some stories.......whew! He and one of his crew members built a Heathkit DF and used it while flying. Kept them out of some trouble!!
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That's an old Navy bird and IS one of the planes he used to fly way back when.....
Not too many of them made. Most guys get a blank look on their face when I tell them my father flew the Mars!!![Smile](https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Edit: There is also an A-3D (All 3 Dead) he flew on the (can't remember the name of) carrier on display in New York City.
Not too many of them made. Most guys get a blank look on their face when I tell them my father flew the Mars!!
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Edit: There is also an A-3D (All 3 Dead) he flew on the (can't remember the name of) carrier on display in New York City.
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You guys have convinced me. The DL/NW merger screwed us all. I mean let's look at the two major carriers that missed out on this last round of consolidation: AMR and LCC. They are just burning it up, their pilots are getting massive raises, their airlines are growing like mad, they are getting huge profit sharing checks and their futures are super bright. Man I wish we were just like them.
Others just aren't content sitting around, moving backwards or stagnating for a decade of their lives. Guy I just did some work for quit Piedmont, recently retired #7 at Southwest. Think we all could agree he did well when he saw what US Air's path was and left.
Delta's outlook needs clarification. The market has rewarded those with the flexibility and willingness to seek opportunity.
At some point Wilbur and Orville must have decided, pedaling big wheel bikes sucks ... lets build an airplane. The first step is always the admission that something could be done better with a little effort.
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That's an old Navy bird and IS one of the planes he used to fly way back when.....
Not too many of them made. Most guys get a blank look on their face when I tell them my father flew the Mars!!![Smile](https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Denny
Edit: There is also an A-3D (All 3 Dead) he flew on the (can't remember the name of) carrier on display in New York City.
Not too many of them made. Most guys get a blank look on their face when I tell them my father flew the Mars!!
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Edit: There is also an A-3D (All 3 Dead) he flew on the (can't remember the name of) carrier on display in New York City.
I believe the Intrepid is the NYC based carrier/museum.
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Thanks Wasatch! Yes, that's it. I just couldn't think of it off the top of my head. DOH!
I was on a layover there a few years ago and went on it. Saw the A-3D there and called him. Sure enough, he flew it!! (Flew them off of a wooden deck carrier.
The Bonhomme Richard if I remember correctly).
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You guys have convinced me. The DL/NW merger screwed us all. I mean let's look at the two major carriers that missed out on this last round of consolidation: AMR and LCC. They are just burning it up, their pilots are getting massive raises, their airlines are growing like mad, they are getting huge profit sharing checks and their futures are super bright. Man I wish we were just like them.
The 737 / 320 in Atlanta is barely held by 5 year guys now. After the march bid it may take more than a decade's seniority to hold a similar position to what US Air new hires are getting off the street. Not that I would trade with them, but it highlights what effect Delta's planned capacity reductions might do to our junior pilots in a merger.
Like Bar said, glad you got yours. For junior guys their perspective might be different than yours.
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Roughly 900+ original DAL pilots hired after me were put on the list in front of me, and every single one of them is younger than me. I didn't like it then, I'm not thrilled about it now, and it got me permanently displaced from my left seat. It is also water under the bridge. It is pointless to expend energy over something you have zero control over.
On the flip side, the guys on the lower half of the original DAL list now have a few thousand North guys ahead of them who aren't leaving anytime soon, myself included. The screw jobs are pretty evenly distributed. Let's focus on moving the ball ahead instead of dwelling on the past.
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Maybe all the whiners and complainers can start a new thread "Any Latest and Crappiest about Delta". That way we don't have to sift through topics that have been hashed out about the SLI or have to read the "empty threats" from those stating they are/should/could have/ might/ leave for another company. If the company that you work for doesn't fit your personal interests, then by all means the best of luck to you in a new endeavor, but lets move on. Sheesh. Things happen which you have no control over and you can either relish in the past, or what should have been, or you can adapt to the new environment.
Maybe this thread is just gone on too long and it is time for me to quit reading.
Maybe this thread is just gone on too long and it is time for me to quit reading.
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