Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-02-2012, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Based on today's AA announcement, ANYONE who thinks any ALPA/APA Pilot can get a 45% pay increase is smoking some mighty strong weed!
I think we can.... It's easy just buy/merge with AMR and their BK pay rates will dissapear as they are brought up to our rate. Followed by more profitability and not just restoration + inflation but an ACTUAL RAISE
Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Based on today's AA announcement, ANYONE who thinks any ALPA/APA Pilot can get a 45% pay increase is smoking some mighty strong weed!
I think we can.... It's easy just buy/merge with AMR and their BK pay rates will dissapear as they are brought up to our rate. Followed by more profitability and not just restoration + inflation but an ACTUAL RAISE
except for the fact that their 100 year old pay rates are still close to our new ones
just looking at a base aircraft we have many of, our MD88 CA tops out at 12 yr at 168, their MD80 captain at 12 is 161! Their contract is what....10 years old?
or do you mean rates that are lower in the future from BK?
02-02-2012, 06:12 AM
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FTB, where is that? I need to replace my old clunker and those prices look like something I can work with. I don't want to shoot too high since I might not be upgrading before age 65...
02-02-2012, 06:22 AM
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I dont think they will keep the 9's but that is my opinion. I will say I find it odd that they still have as many crews in MSP as they do and after March I can't find a single DC9 departure in the system. Even the March open times apprears to be all dh on front end and back end of rotations. Thats what they did in MEM to spool it down, so I think the writing is on the wall for the 9 even in MSP and DTW. Also there has been no talk of moving the sims and they are about to give up that building right?
Thats my take on it. Engage crystal ball at your own risk.
Thats my take on it. Engage crystal ball at your own risk.
I don't use crystal balls. The darn things just don't work.
02-02-2012, 06:25 AM
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except for the fact that their 100 year old pay rates are still close to our new ones
just looking at a base aircraft we have many of, our MD88 CA tops out at 12 yr at 168, their MD80 captain at 12 is 161! Their contract is what....10 years old?
or do you mean rates that are lower in the future from BK?
just looking at a base aircraft we have many of, our MD88 CA tops out at 12 yr at 168, their MD80 captain at 12 is 161! Their contract is what....10 years old?
or do you mean rates that are lower in the future from BK?
02-02-2012, 06:40 AM
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The difference being they never settled nor caved in on scope. The BK is not a result of their failure to negotiate, that's ALPA rhetoric.
02-02-2012, 07:09 AM
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They might not be on a bankruptcy contract, but they took significant voluntary pay cuts. They didn't shoot for the moon. They tried to get back what they gave up voluntarily. The lesson here is never give anything up voluntarily. Everything they gave up, management just took as bonuses. Their pay cuts never went back into the airline as intended.
02-02-2012, 07:32 AM
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02-02-2012, 07:37 AM
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Reserve question
If I get awarded a 5-day YS that takes me into two X-days, do I get any credit on top of guarantee? Or would I be giving up two days off? Are any days earned for future payback?
Thanks in advance,
Cubdrick
Thanks in advance,
Cubdrick
02-02-2012, 07:54 AM
seeing the large hubs...
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02-02-2012, 07:55 AM
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If you volunteer to fly on X-days, it's out of your hide. You get credit for the whole trip towards your guarantee and RAW score--but nothing above the guarantee and no payback X-days (those come with green slips). Not much there for you...
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