forgot to bid

We can agree to disagree that 80 is too big but I agree a single trip shouldn't bump you over unless it's a WB category. 2 4- day trips will get one there but 4 days make up less than 40% of the trips and gold to anyone with a 65 hour line. So if unable to fast track to bucket 2 one is left with a combination of trip lengths a that could take all month.

buzzpat

Well, it really hasn't .... yet. Reserve guarantee and trip credit is a money thing, we'll have to get those back at the table. Seniority in bidding on reserve was low hanging fruit.

Sink r8

I'm pretty sure he is...

But I'm sure he didn't mean getting one's objection on the tape is much consolation.

buzzpat

Hey, don't be hating on Foster the People. Love that group. Besides, saw an interview with them and the song was written to oppose bullying and illustrate just how tragic and uncalled for events like Columbine are.

Free Bird

I agree. Everyone is looking at this as, every month will play out like Feb. When things pick up the flying will be more evenly distributed, when slow, it favors the senior folks in category, I have no problem with that.

Herman

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Jesse

For effecting, you're correct. But for it being at the top of a survey (as was purported), it still is very surprising; and in my estimate, inaccurate.

gloopy

To some extent there is still a lot of yearning for some of the little empires of abuse of days gone by. Things like touch drop vacations where senior guys can get a month off for every week of vacation (and they get 4 or 5) while a junior guy gets 3 or 4 extra days twice a year. Or the scam where you buddy bid with check airmen and get your entire month dropped then pick up a green slip month for triple pay. And of course senior reserve where you never fly and can even decline an assignment if there is even one pilot who could theoretically do it so we have guys flying 2 trips a year while junior and mid level reserves get used constantly.

Let's face it, we're all jailhouse lawyers and sometimes I think we enjoy figuring out tiny little windfall loopholes that benefit only a tiny percentage of the over all group rather than focusing on the system as it applies to everyone.

buzzpat

...and my take on Foster The People?

And, I don't think that seniority was or should be at the top or our concerns regrading reserves. I was just responding that the guarantee, which I wholeheartedly agree and recommended should be higher, was a contract issue while the scheduling bucket thingy was easier to do now.

Scoop

Guys,

I really think a few of you (not Gloopy specifically) are making too big a deal about the reserve changes. Does anyone on reserve want to just forget all the SOT changes and keep the status quo?

The reserve changes are not a Senior vs. Junior issue. Lets face it, most senior guys fly lines. Yes relatively seniority will have more weight, but lets give it at least a few months and then decide how it plays out.

The company wants to level flying. The company controls the buckets. Do you really think the company is going to let the bottom half of reserves max out and the senior guys not fly?

Also, if there is so little flying some guys get to stay home - who should that be? When we actually had SILs guys could get 55 hours with zero obligation - Guess how they were awarded - by seniority.

If the junior guys are getting hosed on reserve we should absolutely fix it but lets not call it a failure before we start.

Finally, lets just suppose that the new bucket system really allows the more senior guys on reserve to slack off - more relatively senior guys will bid reserve and more relatively junior guys can then bid lines. Maybe reserve will be so desirable that senior guys in base will start bidding reserve - then more junior guys who commute to reserve can bid lines. Does anybody think this might actually happen - I don't.


Scoop