Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-19-2009, 12:40 PM
#8722
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Don't forget DAL-S is already calling the shots for DAL-N staffing. If these positions were awarded it was because DAL management wanted them there.
These are also for awards prior to SOC, which means they cannot be canceled, but only reversed post-SOC under the AE/VD/MD system in which case they become displacements, senior enough bump into anything in the system except what is fenced. That is unless we open up position bidding cross fleet prior to SOC
But back to the first point, why even go through the headache if you don't need them?
Last edited by Fly4hire; 06-19-2009 at 01:10 PM.
06-19-2009, 01:15 PM
#8723
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I agree.... Keep spreading the message!
06-19-2009, 01:55 PM
#8724
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Not sure about that, but the JPWA requires them to give us at least 90 days notice of a furlough, so that would supercede what you're suggesting.
Here's to hoping we don't need to test out that particular clause . . .
06-19-2009, 02:02 PM
#8725
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I know all the metaphors about no-furlough clauses vs. toilet paper, etc. The big question for me though is: What grounds could they use to furlough on, and still be within the framework of the no-furlough clause?
Is the $hitty economy enough of a reason? Or do they have to reach force majeure (subject to a judges interpretation?)
All I seem to remember is that they could not furlough due to the merger. I'm not a lawyer, but I think I could argue both sides of that statement with great ease. Back to the whole toilet paper thing again.
Is the $hitty economy enough of a reason? Or do they have to reach force majeure (subject to a judges interpretation?)
All I seem to remember is that they could not furlough due to the merger. I'm not a lawyer, but I think I could argue both sides of that statement with great ease. Back to the whole toilet paper thing again.
06-19-2009, 02:11 PM
#8726
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I know all the metaphors about no-furlough clauses vs. toilet paper, etc. The big question for me though is: What grounds could they use to furlough on, and still be within the framework of the no-furlough clause?
Is the $hitty economy enough of a reason? Or do they have to reach force majeure (subject to a judges interpretation?)
All I seem to remember is that they could not furlough due to the merger. I'm not a lawyer, but I think I could argue both sides of that statement with great ease. Back to the whole toilet paper thing again.
Is the $hitty economy enough of a reason? Or do they have to reach force majeure (subject to a judges interpretation?)
All I seem to remember is that they could not furlough due to the merger. I'm not a lawyer, but I think I could argue both sides of that statement with great ease. Back to the whole toilet paper thing again.
06-19-2009, 02:35 PM
#8727
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Seeking no jacket required rotations
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Which begs the question .. is this a way of reducing pay guarantee on the 747-400? Reserves have been capped at 88:00 for many, many months at a guarantee of 80?. Moving 20 of those reserves to blockholder without a block would save some money on pay guarantee. A blockholder in an 80 hour month is guaranteed 68 for pay.
06-19-2009, 02:36 PM
#8728
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No new and improved PRIP program is forthcoming. Take it or leave it...
Next up, extended leaves.
Next up, extended leaves.
06-19-2009, 02:58 PM
#8729
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Don't forget DAL-S is already calling the shots for DAL-N staffing. If these positions were awarded it was because DAL management wanted them there.
These are also for awards prior to SOC, which means they cannot be canceled, but only reversed post-SOC under the AE/VD/MD system in which case they become displacements, senior enough bump into anything in the system except what is fenced. That is unless we open up position bidding cross fleet prior to SOC
But back to the first point, why even go through the headache if you don't need them?
These are also for awards prior to SOC, which means they cannot be canceled, but only reversed post-SOC under the AE/VD/MD system in which case they become displacements, senior enough bump into anything in the system except what is fenced. That is unless we open up position bidding cross fleet prior to SOC
But back to the first point, why even go through the headache if you don't need them?
06-19-2009, 02:59 PM
#8730
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Here is one for you DAL-N guys, at XJT they used Northwest weather or at least that was my understanding. What I liked was this number assigned to each fix enroute that had the forecasted turbulence there, I think 0 was smooth and 6 was shake the wings off or at least thats what I remember. But it was nice to look through a flight plan real fast and say, bumpy, smooth, smooth then bumpy, etc.
Do you guys have that on your flight plans? Is that a NWA weather thing?
Do you guys have that on your flight plans? Is that a NWA weather thing?
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