Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-28-2012, 03:43 PM
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What a beautiful overhead panel. So well organized and logical. The brilliance of simplicity, capability, redundancy, efficiency and reliability all in one. The panel which set the standard other manufacturers followed and the general layout of jets being designed 50 years later on.
01-28-2012, 03:49 PM
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You are missing the EU's intent. They want money. Specifically they want money they don't have to work for. They will allege price fixing went on (and no doubt there is illegal coordination of capacity with the intention of "managing revenues). Then they will levy a big monetary fine to transfer some of the airlines' profits to the government. Lobbyists will spend money fighting the fines. Ultimately the airlines will raise prices to generate money to cover the government payments and the attorneys ... Hence the circle of socialist life continues.
01-28-2012, 03:50 PM
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I'd quote the 737 overhead panel but I'm shuddering and tremoring at the thought of seeing that piece of junk again. My ears started ringing, too.
01-28-2012, 04:22 PM
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After 20 years of flying the Lockheed Star Lizard and my brief soirée with the Mad Dog, all I see is a sexy ***** calling my name. Apparently you boys can't make her sing like I can.
01-28-2012, 04:32 PM
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Thanks George,
I didn't realize another probe was ongoing for STAR.
Come to think of it, we've reduced VERY aggressively on some routes, which caused yields to rise fairly dramatically (the call said +17% across the Atlantic). Maybe we're squeezing the goose a little tight by reducing offerings a little too much.
I don't understand your last statement. If AF/KLM is not profitable, it's because of their entire network. Presumably we're both doing equally well/poorly across the Atlantic. Why mess with it?
I didn't realize another probe was ongoing for STAR.
Come to think of it, we've reduced VERY aggressively on some routes, which caused yields to rise fairly dramatically (the call said +17% across the Atlantic). Maybe we're squeezing the goose a little tight by reducing offerings a little too much.
I don't understand your last statement. If AF/KLM is not profitable, it's because of their entire network. Presumably we're both doing equally well/poorly across the Atlantic. Why mess with it?
AirFranceKLM is still quoting Atlantic traffic up 9% capacity up 6.7% driven mainly by South America.
For the same time period, Delta Americas traffic is down 3.7% and capacity down 5%.
The profit sharing of the JV is on the shared route network only. The technical terms are Bundle 1 and Bundle 2 flying... IIRC Bundle 1 flying profit is shared 50/50 while bundle 2 flying gets the other side a 25% cut...
Cheers
George
01-28-2012, 04:37 PM
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What a beautiful overhead panel. So well organized and logical. The brilliance of simplicity, capability, redundancy, efficiency and reliability all in one. The panel which set the standard other manufacturers followed and the general layout of jets being designed 50 years later on.
01-28-2012, 04:49 PM
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01-28-2012, 04:53 PM
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We're not. Delta has been significantly more aggressive in the pull down than AFKLM. That's why our production balance is below the share we had when Alitalia was added.
AirFranceKLM is still quoting Atlantic traffic up 9% capacity up 6.7% driven mainly by South America.
For the same time period, Delta Americas traffic is down 3.7% and capacity down 5%.
The profit sharing of the JV is on the shared route network only. The technical terms are Bundle 1 and Bundle 2 flying... IIRC Bundle 1 flying profit is shared 50/50 while bundle 2 flying gets the other side a 25% cut...
Cheers
George
AirFranceKLM is still quoting Atlantic traffic up 9% capacity up 6.7% driven mainly by South America.
For the same time period, Delta Americas traffic is down 3.7% and capacity down 5%.
The profit sharing of the JV is on the shared route network only. The technical terms are Bundle 1 and Bundle 2 flying... IIRC Bundle 1 flying profit is shared 50/50 while bundle 2 flying gets the other side a 25% cut...
Cheers
George
01-28-2012, 05:01 PM
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01-28-2012, 05:07 PM
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Lockheed Star Lizard! ***? Hillarious. Buzz, in your overhead panel it looks like some gauges are missing above the generator switches?
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