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01-26-2012, 06:23 PM
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01-26-2012, 06:26 PM
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I'm 25 pages back. But I couldn't resist completing the survey. I am after all, qualified on a McDonnell Douglas product:
Found under the seat in an MD90 today:
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7. Please indicate the three (3) factors that most influenced your decision
to purchase this McDonnell Douglas product:
[X] Style / appearance
[X] Speed / maneuverability
[_] Price / value
[X] Comfort / convenience
[_] Kickback / bribe
[_] Recommended by salesperson
[_] McDonnell Douglas reputation
[_] Advanced Weapons Systems
[_] Back Room politics
[_] Negative experience opposing one in combat
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[_] Afghanistan
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[_] Iran
[_] Aircraft carrier
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[_] Misc. Third World countries
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purchase in the near future:
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[X] ICBM
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[X] Space Shuttle
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[X] Nuclear Weapon
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that apply.)
[_] Communist
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[_] Democratic
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[X] Corrupt
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11. How did you pay for your McDonnell Douglas product?
[X] Deficit spending
[_] Cash
[_] Suitcases of cocaine
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[_] Personal check
[_] Credit card
[_] Ransom money
[_] Traveler's check
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[X] Default on loans
[_] Gardening
[X] Crafts
[_] Black market / smuggling
[_] Collectibles / collections
[_] Watching sports on TV
[_] Wines
[_] Interrogation / torture
[X] Household pets
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[_] Fashion clothing
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[X] Mutually Assured Destruction
Thank you for taking the time to fill out this questionnaire. Your answers
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Thank you for purchasing a McDonnell Douglas aircraft. In order to
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required, but the information will help us to develop new products that
best meet your needs and desires.
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[X] Mr.
[_] Mrs.
[_] Ms.
[_] Miss
[_] Lt.
[_] Gen.
[_] Comrade
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[_] Other
First Name: Forgot
Initial: 2
Last Name: Bid
Password: 80sMom
Code Name: Youre on Guard
Latitude-Longitude-Altitude: Lattitude: N of MMUN S of KPWM, E of KDFW and W of KPWM, Altitude: Limited to turbulent areas.................
2. Which model aircraft did you purchase?
[_] F-14 Tomcat
[_] F-15 Eagle
[_] F-16 Falcon
[_] F-117A Stealth
[X] MD-"FNC U LATER"-88
3. Date of purchase (Year/Month/Day): .RENTAL.
4. Serial Number: Multiple
5. Please indicate where this product was purchased:
[_] Received as gift / aid package
[_] Catalogue / showroom
[_] Independent arms broker
[X] Mail order
[_] Discount store
[_] Government surplus
[_] Classified
6. Please indicate how you became aware of the McDonnell Douglas product
you have just purchased:
[_] Heard loud noise, looked up
[_] Store display
[_] Espionage
[_] Recommended by friend / relative / ally
[_] Political lobbying by manufacturer
[X] Was attacked by one
7. Please indicate the three (3) factors that most influenced your decision
to purchase this McDonnell Douglas product:
[X] Style / appearance
[X] Speed / maneuverability
[_] Price / value
[X] Comfort / convenience
[_] Kickback / bribe
[_] Recommended by salesperson
[_] McDonnell Douglas reputation
[_] Advanced Weapons Systems
[_] Back Room politics
[_] Negative experience opposing one in combat
8. Please indicate the location(s) where this product will be used:
[X] North America
[_] Afghanistan
[_] Iraq
[_] Iran
[_] Aircraft carrier
[_] Iraq
[_] Europe
[_] Iraq
[_] Middle East (not Iraq)
[_] Iraq
[_] Africa
[_] Iraq
[_] Asia / Far East
[_] Iraq
[_] Misc. Third World countries
[_] Iraq
[_] Classified
[_] Iraq
9. Please indicate the products that you currently own or intend to
purchase in the near future:
[X] Color TV
[_] VCR
[X] ICBM
[X] Killer Satellite
[X] CD Player
[X] Air-to-Air Missiles
[X] Space Shuttle
[X] Home Computer
[X] Nuclear Weapon
10. How would you describe yourself or your organization? (Indicate all
that apply.)
[_] Communist
[_] Socialist
[_] Terrorist
[_] Crazed
[_] Neutral
[_] Democratic
[_] Dictatorship
[X] Corrupt
[X] Primitive / Tribal
11. How did you pay for your McDonnell Douglas product?
[X] Deficit spending
[_] Cash
[_] Suitcases of cocaine
[_] Oil revenues
[_] Personal check
[_] Credit card
[_] Ransom money
[_] Traveler's check
12. Your occupation:
[X] Homemaker
[_] Sales / marketing
[_] Revolutionary
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[_] Middle management
[_] Eccentric billionaire
[_] Defense Minister / General
[_] Retired
[_] Student
13. To help us better understand our customers, please indicate the
interests and activities in which you and your spouse enjoy participating
on a regular basis:
[_] Golf
[_] Boating / sailing
[_] Sabotage
[_] Running / jogging
[X] Propaganda / misinformation
[X] Destabilization / overthrow
[X] Default on loans
[_] Gardening
[X] Crafts
[_] Black market / smuggling
[_] Collectibles / collections
[_] Watching sports on TV
[_] Wines
[_] Interrogation / torture
[X] Household pets
[_] Crushing rebellions
[_] Espionage / reconnaissance
[_] Fashion clothing
[_] Border disputes
[X] Mutually Assured Destruction
Thank you for taking the time to fill out this questionnaire. Your answers
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01-26-2012, 06:28 PM
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Vacation and stuff like that. I think mil leave will run up the raw score along with any personal drops. I don't think that CQ actually raises the RAW score until you go. I had vacation in November and PD'd a few days during the first PCS run and my RAW went to 75. Didn't fly at all that month. If you can afford it, using a PD will bump your RAW score and move you to the bottom of the bucket if you don't want to fly.
01-26-2012, 06:29 PM
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Even if DALPA doesn't show it to the membership right away, you will hear about it on CNN and be able to read it in USA Today and the AJC within 48 hours.
Oh, and I'm sure Rush Limbaugh will have something to say about the greed of those Evil, over paid, under worked, Union Pilots as well...
Oh, and I'm sure Rush Limbaugh will have something to say about the greed of those Evil, over paid, under worked, Union Pilots as well...
01-26-2012, 06:31 PM
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No, he's actually right about that. I saw a schedule for next month that has RAW credit for PDs on it
01-26-2012, 06:35 PM
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I don't mean to make the discussion about ACL. I'd rather stick to the issues. His response to me was condescending and more than just "bringing it to my attention."
And as long as we're discussing ACL, I would agree with your description of "well informed" and "engaged." "Straight with people"... not so much. I prefer MEC leadership that has principles they are unwilling to compromise on and that does not change their principles with whichever the way the wind is blowing. Sorry.
And as long as we're discussing ACL, I would agree with your description of "well informed" and "engaged." "Straight with people"... not so much. I prefer MEC leadership that has principles they are unwilling to compromise on and that does not change their principles with whichever the way the wind is blowing. Sorry.
I am not sure how you do not see me as straight with our pilots. My position on Scope, Pay, Retirement, and DPA has not changed. We disagree on the means to the end, and that is fine. I am continually trying to find ways to increase leverage to get to the end game we all want. The airline environment is dynamic and the items that were part of the discussion three months ago have changed. The map and cheese is constantly moving.
What we have as facts right now are: We are less than 90 days from the openers, AMR is in CH11 and them sitting in court protection really screws with gains, and them surviving with a gutted contract is really bad for our pilot group(Pray they can stop it). That changes the discussion and pressure points. If you have a way to force the NMB and DAL management to give us restoration day one without AMR fragmenting, then lest see it.
We disagree on many issues and that is OK. It keeps the debate and dialogue alive. That is needed to move this group forward.
01-26-2012, 06:38 PM
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Well I guess you told me what's what!
Spare me the righteous indignation and condescension. I don't have time to read every post on this thread every day. Sometimes I have to skip ahead.
I asked clamp a simple question about a statement he made. Seems I struck a nerve with you. You're going to have to brush up on your savoir-faire if you want to keep climbing these political ladders.
Good luck with whatever it is you're trying to do these days. 
Spare me the righteous indignation and condescension. I don't have time to read every post on this thread every day. Sometimes I have to skip ahead.
I asked clamp a simple question about a statement he made. Seems I struck a nerve with you. You're going to have to brush up on your savoir-faire if you want to keep climbing these political ladders.
Good luck with whatever it is you're trying to do these days. Oh and 88, even politicians need to have a harsh side to them as well.
In the end we both want restoration. I do not see the SWA CBA as the end all. It has many shortcomings to it. With the new FT/DT regs, going to their rules would be extremely short sighted and cost us pilot jobs and a ton of protections we currently have. I also think that domestically they have great scope, but outside of the intra US flying they could get clobbered if Kelly decided to take AMR's place in OneWorld. He literally would not even need to consult SWAPA. That is one thing I really disagree with you on. I do agree that we need to be paid better than they do, and am willing to look at any way that can get us there.
ALPA will get you the next agreement, like it or not. It is high time that we keep the reps honest, and get behind them. If we continue with this divided philosophy, we are in for a very nasty ride.
Last edited by acl65pilot; 01-26-2012 at 06:49 PM.
01-26-2012, 06:38 PM
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He is referring to our CH11 contract and theirs to our current compensation. If you figure in the stock it is about that. The stock alone equates to about a 6-10 dollar per hour bump in rates over the first few years of our agreement. Go read Art Aaron's piece of that.
Call it 27% restoration if you want, but the total compensation improvement of both premerger groups get very close to Alfa's assertions.
Call it 27% restoration if you want, but the total compensation improvement of both premerger groups get very close to Alfa's assertions.
01-26-2012, 06:40 PM
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I'm pretty sure you're confusing the opener and the survey with that statement. You don't show your bottom line to the company, and that means you don't show them how much we're willing to settle for.
If you're not confusing the two, then your council chairman has an amazingly poor flair for analogies.
If you're not confusing the two, then your council chairman has an amazingly poor flair for analogies.
Until the MEC mails us the opener, I'm believing my LEC chairman. But I also know the MEC has no opener to send to anyone...until they finish their meetings with the MEC's of our direct RJ competitors over what will be allowed into our scope opener.
Carl
01-26-2012, 06:51 PM
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