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Old 01-26-2012, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
God that makes me want to vomit.
Why? Using the numbers above, if we have 100 737-900ER's coming, and 40 757's retiring, I can stomach that. Can't you?

I'm not saying I know how the trade will unfold, but using the numbers in the post you were responding to, I wouldn't shed a tear over a transaction that yields 60 new mainline airframes.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK
Johnso, it's not really that bad. I heard every line in the book about how loud the cockpit is, in the end I went back to a Plantronics earpiece. The newer 737's with the VG on the nose are as quiet as a 320 with it's hurricane force recirculation fans. As far as the size of the cockpit, PITFA small... I can't wait until the airside manuals go away and we actually have a place beside us for stuff. Being up there for 5 hours....
What's a VG? Every -800 I ever flew was ridiculously loud, and I assume the -900's will be the same.

With the beautiful, light-weight noise cancelling headsets they make now, I don't understand why we can't get hot intercoms in the new Boeings. Fatigue is significantly influenced by noise, and so is safety.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Why? Using the numbers above, if we have 100 737-900ER's coming, and 40 757's retiring, I can stomach that. Can't you?

I'm not saying I know how the trade will unfold, but using the numbers in the post you were responding to, I wouldn't shed a tear over a transaction that yields 60 new mainline airframes.

I'm sure the company will find more main line jets to park as the 737-900's arrive. Got to keep stagnation in place. It also means more lower paying seats as the 737 pays less than the 757.
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Old 01-26-2012, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The company opener will be something on the order of a 2 to 4 percent raise with offsets in work rules to cover the cost. Anyone who thinks other wise is smoking some really good stuff.

SWEET! So we will see DALPA open with 8% and perhaps settle into that 3-5% range. We win!! Thanks for the nice pin though.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Stickman964
Any reserve folks seen the new "Reserve Availability List" format now available in iCrew? You can select any calendar day in the future and the page format associated with the new rules that take effect next month has LOTS of new information shown.
Very interesting, I was really wondering if they were going to be ready to go with the new reserve rules. It its really nice to see were you sit on the list more than 2 days out.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Why? Using the numbers above, if we have 100 737-900ER's coming, and 40 757's retiring, I can stomach that. Can't you?

I'm not saying I know how the trade will unfold, but using the numbers in the post you were responding to, I wouldn't shed a tear over a transaction that yields 60 new mainline airframes.
It's not 60 new frames. We're retiring some A320's & some domestic 767's too. I believe it's 85 retirements so 15 additional frames. I'm guessing the A320's on operating leases are the ones to go.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
I suspect no, American's oldest 757 was delivered in 1989. I would assume they are getting rid of the older ones.

The 757s we're getting rid of are the 1985-1990 vintage, so 1989 at the edge of that. Plus, they have RR engines, so it would be another engine type. Not that we don't have that here, but if we were only going to fly them for say, 5 more years, may not make economic sense. Also, I don't think they are getting rid of many, 10?
Those are the first round of aircraft leases they are refusing. There will be more.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Those are the first round of aircraft leases they are refusing. There will be more.
Yeah, I figure that. Gotta work with what we know though.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Yeah, I figure that. Gotta work with what we know though.
We will see what is "known" in a few months.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The company opener will be something on the order of a 2 to 4 percent raise with offsets in work rules to cover the cost. Anyone who thinks other wise is smoking some really good stuff.
For a company that prides itself on a lack of labor strife, this would not mitigate it. Likewise, if the company would like to get an agreement ironed out prior to another merger -- this will be a non-starter. We'd have about as much agreement as the Congress does today.
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