cencal83406

I believe at least one of them slid off a taxiway. Then again, the company will sweep it under the rug and we will never learn about or hear about it.

No excuses for going off a taxiway, however I know at minimum that Alpena is a ******* hole. Heck, the FAA stepped in and had to make sure the station was properly trained on de-icing procedures... Since no one was.

Even the bigger airports try to get away with crap: Madison Wisconsin said the the middle 50 ft of the runway had been cleaned but the fact that the brakes were mashed to full and the aircraft began weather-vaning when the TRs deployed says otherwise.

sailingfun

The two contracts were carefully compared by both committees. The average total hours paid under each contract during the 3 years prior to the merger were within .5 hours of each other with the Delta contract slightly higher. You can ask the people involved at NW for the exact numbers Carl.
Yes NW had some aspects that produced increases Delta did not have. However Delta had a bunch of aspects to their contract NW did not have. Examples include a higher reserve guarantee for NW. However that was offset by reroute pay, reserve duty period lookback, additional pay for long call trips under 12 hours, pay on top of the guarantee for GS flying ect..
NW got limited pay above 80 hours at time and a half however it was not as posted often on all flying. There was a system that for practical purposes limited the hours depending on the caps. Delta paid double pay on all GS flying. In the end when everything was added up each contract produced essentially the same pay hours per month per pilot.
The Delta 1113 contract was however much shorter duration then the NW contract with higher rates. The much shorter duration of the Delta contract was a critical item. Carl claims he made more as a NW pilot but the facts don't support his case.
Premerger the NW pay rate on the 757 as a example was 142 dollars an hour. There were some small raise built into the NW contract so the rate today would be around 148 to 150. I don't have the exact numbers. The rate in effect today with the joint contract is 189 an hour or over 25 percent higher.
Carl was getting 177 an hour at the merger as a 747 Captain. He currently with international pay is getting 231.75 an hour. He is also getting a additional 1 percent a hour into retirement which will jump to 14 percent in 11 months or an additional 32 dollars an hour if Carl was a 0 percenter in the NW matrix. That would bring his total raise on 1 Jan 13 to 87 dollars an hour. With the raises in the NW contract he will still be 80 dollars an hour ahead.

buzzpat

Random observation #167.

Two things I hate about reaching the hotel after an all-nighter: 1) no Do Not Disturb sign and, 2) a remote control that doesn't work.

Living the dream baby!

Carry on.

Doug Masters

Agreed. Lets focus on the total package. I'm not concerned with an hourly rate as much as I am my W2.

brakechatter

RB211 anybody?

Right out of the mouth of mtx. Asked if I knew of any new aircraft in our future. Gave him my best deer in the headlights look.

New vocabulary word: N3

Doug Masters

The L10s are coming back? Sweet

sailingfun

The company opener will be something on the order of a 2 to 4 percent raise with offsets in work rules to cover the cost. Anyone who thinks other wise is smoking some really good stuff.

TheWagman

RB-211
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buzzpat

Absolutely! And we need to get paid a minimum per day. Why do I sit 35 hour layovers in MCO, or TPA, or DTW and get less money than I would flying? I'm working. Fly me and pay me. I bet the rotation guys and the schedulers would get a lot more efficient in their planning.

Doug Masters

Thats insulting.