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Old 01-23-2012, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The best way to manage your supply chain is to own it.

For an airline to do this, brilliant. Hope they do it. But I bet we'd really start to tanker out of the hubs!
FTB, I think the term you are looking for is "vertical integration."

Ford's River Rouge plant has always amazed me and it built my last two F150's. According to the tour, iron ore comes in off a barge and gets dumped at the steel mill at one end of the facility ... two weeks later a new truck rolls out the other end.

The way Jet fuel is distributed, we would not have to tanker. Think of the infrastructure as a corkage fee for bringing your own bottle of wine to a restaurant. We buy fuel under contract, then the distributor is paid so many cents for serving it to the airplane. The fuel we buy isn't physical, we are trading contracts and cash. It becomes physical at the airplane. "Our fuel" could end up in a number of different places and for different airlines. We'd simply have a way to create fuel capacity and sell it on the open market with the advantage being a reduction of the "crack spread" that refiners are currently charging us. Here's a good article:

The Drastic Impact to Airlines and Passengers From Fuel Price Increases - Seeking Alpha
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LOBO
W-2s are out.
Can somebody refresh my memory about how to get this? I'm not seeing it on Deltanet. Thanks.
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
On a Regional FO budget, DTW calls for either the Wendy's Dollar Menu or Taco Bell. I can eat healthy when I'm a real pilot someday.
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Real pilots get day old food off the airplane. The pecking order is as follows:
  1. Flight Attendants
  2. First Class Passengers
  3. Flight Attendants (meal #2, #3, or "to go" meal)
  4. Dead heading Flight Attendants and non rev friends in back
  5. Flight Attendants' Cats (or if outbound on an international leg, their "friends" at the outstation)
  6. Gate Agents they are friendly with
  7. Rampers they are friendly with
  8. Captain
  9. First Officer
Being so low on the food chain, there are several strategies which must be employed to score free food. Generally, the busier you can keep the flight attendants, the less time they have to graze (or give away) your food. Good airman-ship and diplomacy worthy of Henry Kissinger is key. Find smooth air, fly smoothly, encourage the Captain to keep the seat belt sign off. Make PA's which encourage passengers to "let us know if there is anything we can do to make your flight more comfortable." You must do this in a way that does not alert the FA's of your intention to keep them in the aisles.

A regional airline is a good place to hone your second strategy ... a non discriminating palate. Think of this as the logical expansion of the "ten second rule." Every moldy sandwich has a good end. Food in plastic wrappers is not going to be contaminated by a little garbage which is placed adjacent to it. Banana's are edible in almost any condition.

Your third strategy (and the potential home run move) is to help the flight attendants with their bags. When the two first class meals they have saved fall out from their hiding places, just flash your best grin and begin running while yelling over your shoulder in the jetway "Wow! You packed this up for the Captain and I! You're so nice. It was great working with you hope we get to fly together again soon. ... say hey to your cats. ..."

The potential downfall of the third strategy is getting busted with a bottle of Company booze. I'm guessing that's a firing offense. So, if while performing the grip n grab jog to hog I hear a clink, I give up the goods rather than risk getting caught. Also note, some of the Flight Attendants are deceptively fast and can nearly match your pace up the jetway.
Bar, you're approaching FTB status with this one.

In fairness though, I have to say we were fed on 3 of 4 legs on my last trip and the FA's did a nice job of checking in with us. Must've been a lot of food to get all the way down to #9 on your list
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:24 AM
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar



...and he can out run you.
But can he beat me down the slide with a beer in each hand?
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:42 AM
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Can somebody refresh my memory about how to get this? I'm not seeing it on Deltanet. Thanks.
Go into delta net, and on the "Employee Info" dropdown menu towards the top select Self-Service. Then on that page there are icons on the left, select "employee self-service" then on that page scroll down to the blue links in the middle of the page and click on "get my tax form"
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:50 AM
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Bar, you're approaching FTB status with this one.

In fairness though, I have to say we were fed on 3 of 4 legs on my last trip and the FA's did a nice job of checking in with us. Must've been a lot of food to get all the way down to #9 on your list
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:11 AM
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I don't know why I was thinking about this today, but how many of you who actually completed the contract survey, told ALPA that you would like to see a change to the way that extra flying is assigned? What I am wondering is, is there any interest in moving away from the green slip process to a system like Jetblue where you get paid straight pay up to 75 hrs (not sure if that is what they do now) and then anything you pick up above 75 is paid at time and a half.

Just wondering...
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