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Old 01-15-2012, 08:20 AM
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Looking at this new reserve bucket system, to me it has the potential to take what was event spread out flying based on one thing - whether you had weekends off or not, and tilts towards senior pilots and brings everyone else down. I'll wait and see how this works out but the improvements in pcs and sc are fantastic, the rest of this looks like ****. It like the OWS, spread the wealth my way requires bringing everyone else down.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Ok bidding experts........what does pulled during shuffle mean? It was my number one choice and looks like it was still on the board, I'm confused. 65 hour line, I should have sat reserve

1. Start Pairings
2. Prefer Off Feb 11, 2012, Feb 12, 2012, Feb 13, 2012
Honored
3. Set Condition Minimum Base Layover 096:00
Honored
4. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3573
Pulled during shuffle: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)

5. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3802
Awarded to senior bidder: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)
6. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3509
Filtered by bid number 2: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)
7. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3804
3804 2012-02-18 22:25 2012-02-28 12:35 (065:46) (B)

(1 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 065:46)
8. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3533
Awarded to senior bidder: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 065:46)
Well maybe you get to go somewhere fun, like BKK or HNL? That's got to be a vacation, right?
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Cogf16
Catching up on a bunch of topics.

-American 757's have RR engines
-I'm a Capt and my minimum is about 40-50% over the life of the contract, plus other things like scope, scheduling, DC plan etc. How about 20-25% at DOS then about 8, 8, and 8. I'm equally concerned about scope and JV's as much as pay.


Don't forget minimum day, like a calendar day, of 5:15 minimum for flying, training, and vacation.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Cogf16
Catching up on a bunch of topics.

-American 757's have RR engines
-I'm a Capt and my minimum is about 40-50% over the life of the contract, plus other things like scope, scheduling, DC plan etc. How about 20-25% at DOS then about 8, 8, and 8. I'm equally concerned about scope and JV's as much as pay.
Outstanding! I'm on-board with your thinking. Let us not forget, we ARE working under a concessionary contract (albeit with some improvements, and thank-you Negotiating Committee for those). Of course we don't negotiate in a vacuum, but SOMEBODY has to let the "air" back into this vacuum vessel we find ourselves in. Let it be us. The pilots of Delta Airlines. I sincerely hope that it is under the banner of Delta ALPA, in THIS section 6 negotiation process.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by chuck416
Outstanding! I'm on-board with your thinking. Let us not forget, we ARE working under a concessionary contract (albeit with some improvements, and thank-you Negotiating Committee for those). Of course we don't negotiate in a vacuum, but SOMEBODY has to let the "air" back into this vacuum vessel we find ourselves in. Let it be us. The pilots of Delta Airlines. I sincerely hope that it is under the banner of Delta ALPA, in THIS section 6 negotiation process.
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Don't get too excited, Just flew with a guy (Captain since year 5) who "just wants to keep getting yearly raises," "can't believe they pay me to do this" and "wife does our budget". He also didn't think scope was a big deal because, "I only have 5 years left". Hopefully the minority.
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Don't forget minimum day, like a calendar day, of 5:15 minimum for flying, training, and vacation.
How about rounding it up to an even 6:00 per calendar day including training and vacation?
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dragon
How about rounding it up to an even 6:00 per calendar day including training and vacation?
I like this.....
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dragon
How about rounding it up to an even 6:00 per calendar day including training and vacation?
yup..............
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
Well maybe you get to go somewhere fun, like BKK or HNL? That's got to be a vacation, right?
Actually no, but thanks for your help
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Ok bidding experts........what does pulled during shuffle mean? It was my number one choice and looks like it was still on the board, I'm confused. 65 hour line, I should have sat reserve

1. Start Pairings
2. Prefer Off Feb 11, 2012, Feb 12, 2012, Feb 13, 2012
Honored
3. Set Condition Minimum Base Layover 096:00
Honored
4. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3573
Pulled during shuffle: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)

5. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3802
Awarded to senior bidder: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)
6. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3509
Filtered by bid number 2: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 000:00)
7. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3804
3804 2012-02-18 22:25 2012-02-28 12:35 (065:46) (B)

(1 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 065:46)
8. Award Pairings If Pairing Number 3533
Awarded to senior bidder: 1
(0 Awarded, 1 Matching, Running total: 065:46)
Nevermind, figured it out. I thought it was a higher time trip than it was, it's not and below the line construction window. Then I gave it nothing that it could use to get inside the LCW. Oh well.........
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