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More specifically, what would you like to see in C2012? Status quo + "COLA"????
I'm usually neutral on the whole "managing expectations" talking point, but you're really making a case here.
NRT is going back tot he 744. That really leaves JND and DXB. DXB just went to a 24 hr layo.
I too find it hard to fathom them closing the 777 base in ATL, but I am not the one that started the discussion. I heard what Scambo heard, and from different people. It is more about diversifying our flying and moving things out of the ATL basket from what I was told. It has to do with the way the City of Atlanta played with the renegotiation of our leases, or so the story goes.
From what I could gather, and I did not ask too many questions, it was not going to be immediate. For that reason alone, I bet ti never happens. From what I hear there will be more seats pulled on the next bid. The 777 is doing MSP-NRT and similar markets. Its not that they are parking anything, they are just moving stuff around to maximize its benefit.
As for DTW and LAX from ATL on the 777, those are position flights. Once they get most of the MTC up and running in DTW on the 777, those two flights may not be needed.
The back end of that rumor was more interesting to me anyway. Go search what Scambo posted. That is the part that got me to respond, not that it was leaving ATL, it was what the long term plans were. (Long meaning five years)
I also took this as a purposeful leak. One that is to get out to certain people or organizations, not pilots, but airlines and airport boards. Its a message.
I too find it hard to fathom them closing the 777 base in ATL, but I am not the one that started the discussion. I heard what Scambo heard, and from different people. It is more about diversifying our flying and moving things out of the ATL basket from what I was told. It has to do with the way the City of Atlanta played with the renegotiation of our leases, or so the story goes.
From what I could gather, and I did not ask too many questions, it was not going to be immediate. For that reason alone, I bet ti never happens. From what I hear there will be more seats pulled on the next bid. The 777 is doing MSP-NRT and similar markets. Its not that they are parking anything, they are just moving stuff around to maximize its benefit.
As for DTW and LAX from ATL on the 777, those are position flights. Once they get most of the MTC up and running in DTW on the 777, those two flights may not be needed.
The back end of that rumor was more interesting to me anyway. Go search what Scambo posted. That is the part that got me to respond, not that it was leaving ATL, it was what the long term plans were. (Long meaning five years)
I also took this as a purposeful leak. One that is to get out to certain people or organizations, not pilots, but airlines and airport boards. Its a message.
But as to the city of Atlanta and negotiations, now come on... the city of Atlanta is as pure and clean as the wind driven snow...
Airport concession winners linked to city officials
Airport concession winners linked to city officials | ajc.com
December 25, 2011
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
In just nine days, the Atlanta City Council will have a chance to award one of its biggest plums: the contracts to run restaurants and shops at the world’s busiest airport.
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Mayor Kasim Reed’s administration wants the City Council, at its Jan. 3 meeting, to sign off on a list of proposed winners whose contracts cover 150 storefronts throughout Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport.
“In terms of dollar amounts, the concessions of course are enormous,” said City Council member Yolanda Adrean. “We’ve got the busiest airport on planet Earth.”
A concessions contract at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport can be a long-term cash cow. Many run for 10 years, with gross sales for the total group of concessionaires expected to hit $377 million per year.
Because the stakes are so high, concession deals at Hartsfield-Jackson have sometimes been steeped in corruption and cronyism, including a bribery scheme in the 1990s that landed two city councilmen and one concessionaire in prison, and a lawsuit over the selection of an advertising contractor that cost the city millions.
...(Mayor Kasim) Reed vowed that the process would be honest and transparent... A review by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution shows financial and political links between the mayor and major concessionaires, and also between the businesses and other city officials...
(AJC found that)
...Adrean said the international terminal’s looming deadlines create a sense of urgency... Reed’s administration did not release the scores of the winning bidders to the general public. The AJC requested the documents under Georgia’s open records law, but the city’s lawyers would not provide them, and said the documents are exempt from disclosure until the council approves the legislation and Reed signs it.... Common Cause Georgia, a watchdog group, has pushed for regulations to limit political contributions by companies that compete for airport contracts. The city has no such restrictions in place. Nor do any other metro Atlanta governments...
...This summer, Reed publicly opposed pay-to-play reform, saying the city’s ethics rules for contributions were already “as strong or stronger than any major government in the state of Georgia.”
Airport concession winners linked to city officials | ajc.com
December 25, 2011
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
In just nine days, the Atlanta City Council will have a chance to award one of its biggest plums: the contracts to run restaurants and shops at the world’s busiest airport.
More Atlanta/Fulton news »
Mayor Kasim Reed’s administration wants the City Council, at its Jan. 3 meeting, to sign off on a list of proposed winners whose contracts cover 150 storefronts throughout Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport.
“In terms of dollar amounts, the concessions of course are enormous,” said City Council member Yolanda Adrean. “We’ve got the busiest airport on planet Earth.”
A concessions contract at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport can be a long-term cash cow. Many run for 10 years, with gross sales for the total group of concessionaires expected to hit $377 million per year.
Because the stakes are so high, concession deals at Hartsfield-Jackson have sometimes been steeped in corruption and cronyism, including a bribery scheme in the 1990s that landed two city councilmen and one concessionaire in prison, and a lawsuit over the selection of an advertising contractor that cost the city millions.
...(Mayor Kasim) Reed vowed that the process would be honest and transparent... A review by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution shows financial and political links between the mayor and major concessionaires, and also between the businesses and other city officials...
(AJC found that)
- Hojeij Branded Foods Inc. won one of five large packages of restaurant concessions. The company is controlled by Wassim Hojeij, who was a member of host committees for Reed campaign events. Hojeij, his relatives and people linked to his company contributed at least $27,000 to Reed.
- Atlanta Restaurant Partners won both as a prime contractor and as a subcontractor. The partnership is made up of Daniel Halpern, who co-chaired Reed’s campaign, and family members of former Mayor Maynard Jackson.... contributed at least $16,700 to Reed’s campaign... Halpern’s wife Sonya served on Reed’s transition team. After he became mayor, Reed named Daniel Halpern to the board of the Atlanta Housing Authority. Halpern also made campaign contributions to City Council member Lamar Willis, who sits on the transportation committee.
- An entity called HMSHost, one of the biggest winners in the competition for concessions, contributed $6,100 to Reed, although $2,000 was later refunded.
- Entrepreneur Mack Wilbourn gave at least $3,400 to Reed in contributions made personally and through his company, Mack II, which was selected by the city as a prime contractor for restaurants in the airport’s atrium and Concourse A. Because the rules allowed him to do so, Wilbourn also won restaurant spaces as a subcontractor throughout much of the rest of the airport. Wilbourn, who was acquitted of charges in a major airport corruption case in 1994, has also made campaign contributions to City Council member C.T. Martin, who chairs the transportation committee that oversees the airport.
- Paradies-Atlanta II, another longtime player in airport concessions, was recommended as concessionaire for a collection of stores on Concourse E and the new international terminal Concourse F. Company founder Dan Paradies went to prison in connection with the 1994 bribery scandal. (He retired as CEO at that time; his nephew Gregg is now chief executive.) People linked to Paradies-Atlanta donated at least $2,250 to Reed since September 2009, according to campaign finance databases, although some of that money was refunded.
- Delaware North Companies won another of the five large packages of restaurant concessions. In the first half of the year, Reed received multiple donations of $2,500 from the Jacobs family of Buffalo, N.Y., who are affiliated with Delaware North and own the Boston Bruins.
- Some significant contributors did not win contracts. Roberson & Reynolds is one example. Principal Nancy Jafari, her husband Lohrasb, and partner George Reynolds combined to give $16,800 to Reed.
...Adrean said the international terminal’s looming deadlines create a sense of urgency... Reed’s administration did not release the scores of the winning bidders to the general public. The AJC requested the documents under Georgia’s open records law, but the city’s lawyers would not provide them, and said the documents are exempt from disclosure until the council approves the legislation and Reed signs it.... Common Cause Georgia, a watchdog group, has pushed for regulations to limit political contributions by companies that compete for airport contracts. The city has no such restrictions in place. Nor do any other metro Atlanta governments...
...This summer, Reed publicly opposed pay-to-play reform, saying the city’s ethics rules for contributions were already “as strong or stronger than any major government in the state of Georgia.”
Oh Atlanta, you're always on fire...
...except with your sucky sports teams.
It'd be funny to threaten the city to move international flying from ATL to DTW now that there is a new terminal but DTW still offers a better one. If you threaten to ramp up MEM operations to cover domestic flying knowing all along that SWA will not really expand that much in ATL to begin with then you might cause a great panic among the city managers.
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