Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-31-2011, 08:56 AM
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Yeah it's a wonderful free market isn't it ? I've heard we are going down to 185 777 Capt's in ATL, the good times just keep rolling.
12-31-2011, 09:01 AM
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I have heard this buyout term thrown around once in a while, but what "buyout" are you refering to? Something at CAL?
There was never a buyout at DAL, not this last time and not back in 1996, but the company did let 505 guys retire early (in 1996) with "as if you were age 60" benefits.
When the guys left DAL just before bankruptcy, they basically got -half- of what they had earned in their Defined Benefit retirements. There was a "50% Lump Sum" option to the DB plan. Not more, just half, and certainly no "buyout" from the company! They never got the other half. There is a group of them trying to sue the PBGC to get some of the other half.
Of course the guys who stayed didn't even get the half.
12-31-2011, 09:10 AM
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I heard they may move ALL the 777 flying to DTW...we lost TLV, it's not coming back, and LOS. A F/A just last night told me they have been told that in March, they are going to put the 747 back on ATL-NRT.
So what's left? DXB and JNB and SYD. They can easily cover that from DTW, with deadheadding, just like they do now. This same F/A told me they were told, "ATL international flying will only be Africa and South America. NYC will do all the Europe and DTW will do all the Asia flying..."
Just remember..."Commuting is a Choice!"
12-31-2011, 09:24 AM
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I heard they may move ALL the 777 flying to DTW...we lost TLV, it's not coming back, and LOS. A F/A just last night told me they have been told that in March, they are going to put the 747 back on ATL-NRT.
So what's left? DXB and JNB and SYD. They can easily cover that from DTW, with deadheadding, just like they do now. This same F/A told me they were told, "ATL international flying will only be Africa and South America. NYC will do all the Europe and DTW will do all the Asia flying..."
Just remember..."Commuting is a Choice!"
So what's left? DXB and JNB and SYD. They can easily cover that from DTW, with deadheadding, just like they do now. This same F/A told me they were told, "ATL international flying will only be Africa and South America. NYC will do all the Europe and DTW will do all the Asia flying..."
Just remember..."Commuting is a Choice!"
Timbo;
ACL and I had a similar conversation about 30 pages back. ATL is in shrinkage mode big-time from what I hear. I wonder if PG will become a commuter by choice then?
12-31-2011, 09:28 AM
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I know the 777 positions are dwindling, but what about the 330 and 320 spots? Aren't those making up for the decrease? (Yes, I know. Lower paying positions.)
12-31-2011, 09:32 AM
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Sorry I missed that conversation, I've been 'off line' a lot the past 10 days or so with the holidays, the 4 kids, the wife, her parents, oh...and work. I just flew 17:14 from Joburg this morning...boy are my arms tired!
At least we had moderate turb. for over 4 hours in and around the equator.
Not a whole lot of sleeping going on there!Now I remember why I quit bidding it!
12-31-2011, 09:35 AM
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Yeah, supposedly the 330 will be doing all that ATL-Africa and SA flying. I haven't been keeping track of the total numbers in base, but if the 777 goes, there will be a huge downdraft into all the other categorys, by guys who say things like, "I would NEVER commute!"
I've got to go take a nap, big party tonight and I've been up since...yesterday morning.
12-31-2011, 10:02 AM
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I have heard this buyout term thrown around once in a while, but what "buyout" are you refering to? Something at CAL?
There was never a buyout at DAL, not this last time and not back in 1996, but the company did let 505 guys retire early (in 1996) with "as if you were age 60" benefits.
When the guys left DAL just before bankruptcy, they basically got -half- of what they had earned in their Defined Benefit retirements. There was a "50% Lump Sum" option to the DB plan. Not more, just half, and certainly no "buyout" from the company! They never got the other half. There is a group of them trying to sue the PBGC to get some of the other half.
Of course the guys who stayed didn't even get the half.
There was never a buyout at DAL, not this last time and not back in 1996, but the company did let 505 guys retire early (in 1996) with "as if you were age 60" benefits.
When the guys left DAL just before bankruptcy, they basically got -half- of what they had earned in their Defined Benefit retirements. There was a "50% Lump Sum" option to the DB plan. Not more, just half, and certainly no "buyout" from the company! They never got the other half. There is a group of them trying to sue the PBGC to get some of the other half.
Of course the guys who stayed didn't even get the half.
12-31-2011, 10:13 AM
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And yeah, the 330 is a lower paying category than the 777, but not a ton lower. I have seriously been considering bidding it. I miss Europe. I also figure that a brush with Airbus logic before I decide to grow up and bid Captain is prolly not a bad idea...options and all.
It's probably several years before I decide to grow up though. I kind of like my current job.
Oh yeah, our conversation on the Constanza of Atlanta may have been a lot farther back, it took place in November.
12-31-2011, 10:36 AM
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I heard they may move ALL the 777 flying to DTW...we lost TLV, it's not coming back, and LOS. A F/A just last night told me they have been told that in March, they are going to put the 747 back on ATL-NRT.
So what's left? DXB and JNB and SYD. They can easily cover that from DTW, with deadheadding, just like they do now. This same F/A told me they were told, "ATL international flying will only be Africa and South America. NYC will do all the Europe and DTW will do all the Asia flying..."
Just remember..."Commuting is a Choice!"
So what's left? DXB and JNB and SYD. They can easily cover that from DTW, with deadheadding, just like they do now. This same F/A told me they were told, "ATL international flying will only be Africa and South America. NYC will do all the Europe and DTW will do all the Asia flying..."
Just remember..."Commuting is a Choice!"
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