Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
#8432
As DAL4 stated, they are looking at displacements in Aug. Some are saying 40-50 767 drivers. What that does is allows the ER guys to fly a lot of domestic this winter. I know that crew planning is still working on the final plan. If it becomes any clearer prior to the bid we will let ya know.
Also, FWIW, no one has stated on the record that there will be no furloughs, or there will be furloughs. If you read the communication from our VP last week, it is very carefully worded.
Here is hoping for the best!
Also, FWIW, no one has stated on the record that there will be no furloughs, or there will be furloughs. If you read the communication from our VP last week, it is very carefully worded.
Here is hoping for the best!
#8433
BTW DAL lets say they take 50 slots out of the ATL 767 category. That would put us at about 320 on each seat. Looks to me to be about 110 less than two years ago. Almost like they are shrinking the category in to oblivion.
Are they slowly combining the 767 and ER guys.
From the chatter from VA. ave, that looks like a possibility. Also if you note the new bulletin that is out to maintain currency in theater every two years. IMHO another precursor to a big ole ER group. What are those boys up to??????
Are they slowly combining the 767 and ER guys.
From the chatter from VA. ave, that looks like a possibility. Also if you note the new bulletin that is out to maintain currency in theater every two years. IMHO another precursor to a big ole ER group. What are those boys up to??????
#8434
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BTW DAL lets say they take 50 slots out of the ATL 767 category. That would put us at about 320 on each seat. Looks to me to be about 110 less than two years ago. Almost like they are shrinking the category in to oblivion.
Are they slowly combining the 767 and ER guys.
From the chatter from VA. ave, that looks like a possibility. Also if you note the new bulletin that is out to maintain currency in theater every two years. IMHO another precursor to a big ole ER group. What are those boys up to??????
Are they slowly combining the 767 and ER guys.
From the chatter from VA. ave, that looks like a possibility. Also if you note the new bulletin that is out to maintain currency in theater every two years. IMHO another precursor to a big ole ER group. What are those boys up to??????
#8435
I have been told repeatedly that they cannot do this by the contract hawks. The way I see it, they could just have the 767 category with no staffing and no flying in it. Thus, no need for a min staffing by the PBS staffing formula.
Alfa and others. If there is a part of the JPWA that states that they cannot combine or eliminate the category, I would love to see it. Or what DALPA is using for the arguement that they cannot reduce it.
#8436
If you were DAL, it'd make sense to combine ER and 767 but from a pilots standpoint, how fewer pilots would we need if it was combined? Or would it go down at all? I fear it would.
We're not Continental yet, but we're running in that direction. When holding 767 means you hold domestic and international on the 752, 753, 763 and 764, then we're flying like CAL. Once we burn the work rules in our contract and concede our lives to the airline, hate DCI with a passion and hate each other just as much, then and only then are we really Continental.
Honestly though, you could/can see this coming. The CAL people we brought over must have been chuckling when they saw domestic and international split much less that we once had seperate categories for 732, 733 and 738. I'm sure they said "we'll change that." Heck, maybe the MD88, MD90 and DC9 will become a combined fleet! What does your type say? DC-9? Well then do we have a trip for you... right after you finish this CD...
We're not Continental yet, but we're running in that direction. When holding 767 means you hold domestic and international on the 752, 753, 763 and 764, then we're flying like CAL. Once we burn the work rules in our contract and concede our lives to the airline, hate DCI with a passion and hate each other just as much, then and only then are we really Continental.
Honestly though, you could/can see this coming. The CAL people we brought over must have been chuckling when they saw domestic and international split much less that we once had seperate categories for 732, 733 and 738. I'm sure they said "we'll change that." Heck, maybe the MD88, MD90 and DC9 will become a combined fleet! What does your type say? DC-9? Well then do we have a trip for you... right after you finish this CD...
#8437
If you were DAL, it'd make sense to combine ER and 767 but from a pilots standpoint, how fewer pilots would we need if it was combined? Or would it go down at all? I fear it would.
We're not Continental yet, but we're running in that direction. When holding 767 means you hold domestic and international on the 752, 753, 763 and 764, then we're flying like CAL. Once we burn the work rules in our contract and concede our lives to the airline, hate DCI with a passion and hate each other just as much, then and only then are we really Continental.
Honestly though, you could/can see this coming. The CAL people we brought over must have been chuckling when they saw domestic and international split much less that we once had seperate categories for 732, 733 and 738. I'm sure they said "we'll change that." Heck, maybe the MD88, MD90 and DC9 will become a combined fleet! What does your type say? DC-9? Well then do we have a trip for you... right after you finish this CD...
We're not Continental yet, but we're running in that direction. When holding 767 means you hold domestic and international on the 752, 753, 763 and 764, then we're flying like CAL. Once we burn the work rules in our contract and concede our lives to the airline, hate DCI with a passion and hate each other just as much, then and only then are we really Continental.
Honestly though, you could/can see this coming. The CAL people we brought over must have been chuckling when they saw domestic and international split much less that we once had seperate categories for 732, 733 and 738. I'm sure they said "we'll change that." Heck, maybe the MD88, MD90 and DC9 will become a combined fleet! What does your type say? DC-9? Well then do we have a trip for you... right after you finish this CD...
I cannot see them putting the 9 with the 88/90. Same type but too many differences. I mean that is a disaster waiting to happen.
In theory the staffing would go down. Reserve would suck. No thanks, back to the 73 for me if that happens! I would hate 24 hr reserve with all of that domestic thrown in.
#8438
What if we removed the FMS from the MD-88? Then we could say they're essentially the same except one has a brighter gyro.
We could do what CAL does and draw round dials on the big 737NG efis screens to make it look like an analog 733. I wonder if they do that with their 764s to match the 757s?... ... no. Just looked it up.
I'm just trying to take the inefficiencies out of the system. Both in staffing, training and of course in the time it takes for a pilot to fill out an ASAP and COR.
We could do what CAL does and draw round dials on the big 737NG efis screens to make it look like an analog 733. I wonder if they do that with their 764s to match the 757s?... ... no. Just looked it up.
I'm just trying to take the inefficiencies out of the system. Both in staffing, training and of course in the time it takes for a pilot to fill out an ASAP and COR.
#8440
Another Vote For A Vicious “Double Dip”
Posted: June 15, 2009 at 4:43 am
After several weeks of conviction on the part of most economists that the current recession is a “single” dip which will end later this year, the advocates of a “double dip” recession are out in force. Most of the champions of two dips see a brief swing up in the GDP of the developed nations followed by another collapse in the first half of next year.
Last week, the head of The World Bank said that there are still plenty of risks in the credit system that will keep a tight reign on available capital and that this could smother the recession which it is still in its crib.
The new doomsayers are the leaders and analysts of the IMF. According to Reuters, “The worst of the global economic crisis may be yet to come,’ said International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn.” He seems to think the stimulus package has been too light and have not been in effect long enough to assure rapid GDP growth.
Strauss-Kahn has several factors on his side. The first is that banks may be in for much more trouble than their managements are willing to let on in public. JPMorgan (JPM) recently admitted that the quality of its consumer loans, especially credit cards, was worsening as the year passes. Unemployment will exacerbate that. Write-offs at money center institutions will certainly not make it more likely that they want to extend more credit in a choppy economy.
Oil prices are on the minds of most analysts. One set of experts sees crude fueling inflation. Another group believes that businesses and consumers do not have access to the money to pay for higher fuel prices and maintain spending for other goods and services. That could push up joblessness and cut back on the consumer’s ability to make payments on the most basic necessities.
Unemployment in and of itself may be the biggest single risk to the overall recovery. It is likely to move into double digits, at least in the US, by the end of the summer. China and other large exporters cannot maintain recoveries based on their stimulus packages alone. The American consumer has to have his old habits resurrected for a real global turnaround to start.
The deleveraging of the credit markets is not nearly over. That is particularly true in sectors like commercial real estate, the value of which has been inflated in most large economies as business expansion caused a need for more office space and manufacturing facilities. Both of these type of real estate are underutilized and the loans that helped their expansion are, in many cases, in jeopardy.
The expansion is a ghost if credit availability is not revived, and that looks unlikely.
Douglas A. McIntyre
So does anyone think with this type of news 2010 is going to be a stellar year?
Posted: June 15, 2009 at 4:43 am
After several weeks of conviction on the part of most economists that the current recession is a “single” dip which will end later this year, the advocates of a “double dip” recession are out in force. Most of the champions of two dips see a brief swing up in the GDP of the developed nations followed by another collapse in the first half of next year.
Last week, the head of The World Bank said that there are still plenty of risks in the credit system that will keep a tight reign on available capital and that this could smother the recession which it is still in its crib.
The new doomsayers are the leaders and analysts of the IMF. According to Reuters, “The worst of the global economic crisis may be yet to come,’ said International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn.” He seems to think the stimulus package has been too light and have not been in effect long enough to assure rapid GDP growth.
Strauss-Kahn has several factors on his side. The first is that banks may be in for much more trouble than their managements are willing to let on in public. JPMorgan (JPM) recently admitted that the quality of its consumer loans, especially credit cards, was worsening as the year passes. Unemployment will exacerbate that. Write-offs at money center institutions will certainly not make it more likely that they want to extend more credit in a choppy economy.
Oil prices are on the minds of most analysts. One set of experts sees crude fueling inflation. Another group believes that businesses and consumers do not have access to the money to pay for higher fuel prices and maintain spending for other goods and services. That could push up joblessness and cut back on the consumer’s ability to make payments on the most basic necessities.
Unemployment in and of itself may be the biggest single risk to the overall recovery. It is likely to move into double digits, at least in the US, by the end of the summer. China and other large exporters cannot maintain recoveries based on their stimulus packages alone. The American consumer has to have his old habits resurrected for a real global turnaround to start.
The deleveraging of the credit markets is not nearly over. That is particularly true in sectors like commercial real estate, the value of which has been inflated in most large economies as business expansion caused a need for more office space and manufacturing facilities. Both of these type of real estate are underutilized and the loans that helped their expansion are, in many cases, in jeopardy.
The expansion is a ghost if credit availability is not revived, and that looks unlikely.
Douglas A. McIntyre
So does anyone think with this type of news 2010 is going to be a stellar year?
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