acl65pilot

If the cargo carriers really got exempt, then it is a major loss for them, and for our underbelly freight business.

tsquare

That's a pretty big leap. How do you figure that will affect our cargo (in which there's no money anyway)?

freightguy

Shipping costs with cargo-only carriers will decrease which will give the cargo-only carriers an unfair advantage over us.

tsquare

Again, how do you figure this? And I fyp.

acl65pilot

Simple, they keep un-argument flights on the back side of the clock and they can work under the current rules, we can't.

tsquare

meh I don't see this as that big a deal. I would think that ALPA would negotiate these rules (for FedEx at least).. if.. they are a good deal for us.. but I don't think this is at all a good deal.

acl65pilot

You do not think that pilots will take more coin to work a few more hrs? Ha, we are our own worst enemies.

1234

I dont understand

tsquare

Maybe, maybe not. They may very well do that, but I really don't think pilot costs are gonna drastically change the landscape for pricing.

LeineLodge

I agree. So far the little bit I've been able to scan through looks quite a bit like our PWA flight/duty limits.

This WILL have an effect on the regionals. The table limiting duty day based on start time and # of legs will challenge their schedulers/planners a bit. I would routinely have 6 leg/~8 hour/15:30 duty days. Of course that's usually achievable by having a 3-ish hour sit somewhere in the day too. This will be a dramatic QOL improvement for regional pilots that don't have the contractual protections of our PWA.

I haven't seen anything in the new rules that will prevent Delta from giving us 3 hour sits though. Our duty days are already capped at or near the new limits, so they will still probably be able to have us do productivity sits. All the more reason we need to improve our duty rigs in the next contract.