forgot to bid

So for ALPA National you are guaranteed a lawsuit by someone if DALPA demands scope recapture, but if DALPA never asks then no lawsuits.

So who wins? DCI.

acl65pilot

The whole problem with that line of thinking is that DALPA is totally within their bounds to ask for a scope recapture. They are the ones allowing it to be performed by other pilots groups. Of course someone will probably file a DFR, the fact still remains that the flying is ours, as the sole bargaining agent with DAL airlines to have that flying performed here. A DFR suit in this case would be thrown out for the reasons listed above.

tsquare

I honestly do not know, but I would hope that since it is OUR contract, that whether LM signs it or not could be made irrelevant. Kind of like SLim PIckins in Blazing Saddles at the end when he punches Dom Deluise and says "I work for Mel Brooks". WE do not work for Lee Moak. We don't work for Tim O either I know, but I would HOPE that he tells Lee to sign or he (Tim) will sign it himself. I honestly do not know. They have very high priced lawyers in DC that our dues are paying for, and it is their problem as to how to deal with it. Holding OUR contract hostage is not an acceptable answer. That could very well be the death of ALPA if they tried something like that. (If, of course those details ever saw the light of day).

All that being said, I think you might be jumping the gun just a little. Let's see how this all plays out. Besides, there is nothing we can do about it at this point anyway.

tsquare

My only comment to this is that I would like you to justify how we can be members of a group that will turn and sue members of that same association. I think there should be some kind of indemnification, hold harmless clause to the by laws that would prevent this kind of CRAP. It is totally unacceptable to me that this kind of subject is even broached. This is why national sucks. Just like the bridge builder that built a thousand bridges and is not remembered for that...

tsquare

So how noisy is the aircraft at redline?

tsquare

His negativity is based on total cluelessness. Sorry hockey, but it is. You are starting to sound like a guy over on the DALPA boards that is anti Delta anything.. Like (newK?) said... you have the keys to the castle.... and somehow.. that's not enough.

tsquare

No argument.. I'm just responding to the verbiage of what Carl posted.. So we meet with them. Then tell them.. too bad.. we are taking back some... most.. all of that flying, and there's nothing you can do about it. Put in an application, we'll be hiring.

Timbo

He may have the "Keys to the Castle", problem is, somebody changed the locks...

He may want the key to the highway now;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oei5P...eature=related

tsquare

I don't know whether they have one way or another. I was commenting on your post... thing is, I don't think you actually KNOW one way or another either. You have no more idea of what goes on behind closed doors any more than I do. You are firing from the hip about all this to push your agenda of DPA. I get that. That's fine too IMHO. I'm just not real interested in DPA because of their pathetic legal choice, and most of all lack of a public, written statement (I think you call that... transparency..) from the leadership that there will be no re visitation of the SLI. Fire away.

tsquare

It depends on who's paying them.. the lawyers anyway...