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Old 12-19-2011, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
There. Fixed it for you:

"Thing is, there is always going to be the crisis or issue du jour that management and DALPA will point to and scream about the sky falling while trying to manage your expectations.

Time to start managing theirs.

Don't sell yourselves short guys."
Thanks. Total brain fart.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
You're right! Ewww... Look at it! No IFE! It don't care...
Look at all those junior FAs running up and down the aisle, eww, look how they fit in that skirt. No senior momma gonna picking THAT trip up, 757 don't care!
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil

Anyhow, once the T/A is presented to us, I fully expect that it will be completely taken apart, sliced, diced and pounded by a bunch of us from every possible angle before the first day passes. We will have all the information necessary to completely evaluate it's value, either good or bad. There shouldn't be any areas that are nebulous. We will have a really good idea of its value pretty quickly.
We'll put our best and brightest on to it.



We're going to set up subcommittees to dissect all of the different sections of the TA.

At the end of the day it'll be like a scene out of Apollo 13 where every department checks in with a "GO... flight leader? GO... Gordo? GO!" And so on.

The all important APCF seal of approval will be 5 underboobs out of 5. Anything less, well, will be flat.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I would have rather remained a stand alone DAL. It is what it is though. I am optimistic that we will close the gap on SWA pay. I am still not optimistic that we will see C2K rates however, because of AMR and the obama economy, but we will have to wait and see.
Don't worry, your not alone. There are about 4500 other folks that wish the merger never happened, but we'll get over it to, eventually.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotc90a
Don't worry, your not alone. There are about 4500 other folks that wish the merger never happened, but we'll get over it to, eventually.
I'm not saying that I wished it never happened. I think it was the best thing for both carriers knowing that consolidation is becoming a reality. If chenge had never happened in the industry, I would have rather remained stand alone. That being said, I'm well over it, and it's time to kick ass. If you haven't gotten over it.. well.. best of luck.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I'm not saying that I wished it never happened. I think it was the best thing for both carriers knowing that consolidation is becoming a reality. If chenge had never happened in the industry, I would have rather remained stand alone. That being said, I'm well over it, and it's time to kick ass. If you haven't gotten over it.. well.. best of luck.
Precisely. We're a team now and a damn good one. Five years from now, we'll all look back and be very thankful that we pulled off the previously unimaginable. See US Air, UCAL, and whomever AMR ends up with.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I'm not saying that I wished it never happened. I think it was the best thing for both carriers knowing that consolidation is becoming a reality. If chenge had never happened in the industry, I would have rather remained stand alone. That being said, I'm well over it, and it's time to kick ass. If you haven't gotten over it.. well.. best of luck.
I do wish it had never happened. And I don't mean anything derogatory about NWA either. I just think we had a good business plan and would have been better off all this time actually focusing on running the best airline possible (instead of having to focus on all the complexities of a ginormous merger) and growing internally.

But having said that. All the wishing in the world isn't going to undo it. I completely agree that we need to go forward with the intention of making this the best airline on the planet.

I only point out the anti-merger stuff because I don't want to see us make the same mistakes in judgment with our next contract that we made in evaluating the JPWA (and ever since BK really). Our focus needs to be clear. And it needs to be on restoring the standard of living our pay provides to us and our families, and on reversing the outsourcing and getting our flying back. When we acted like we just won the lottery because we got what amounts to a COLA to our bankruptcy/emergency rates, we sent the wrong message and IMO helped to undermine our ability to get the restorative gains we need going forward.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:21 PM
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:23 PM
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Pinnacle Air Has ‘High Probability’ of Bankruptcy, Maxim Says - Businessweek


Just curious, but any idea how this would affect us?

I'm just wondering if a DCI bankruptcy could translate a higher cost to DAL.
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CVG767A
You're right! Ewww... Look at it! No IFE! It don't care*...




*TSquare....the bad grammar is intentional

What have I started?
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