Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-18-2011, 02:11 AM
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Flyz, what if the DPA put out a simple cheap press release to the AP? Think of all that would happen 
... and then discuss it on the DPA thread. 
... and then discuss it on the DPA thread.
12-18-2011, 03:25 AM
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12-18-2011, 03:53 AM
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Delta Air Lines Newsroom - Press Kit
sure glad I didn't hold my breath on much more mainline flying in the second phase of lga expansion...
sure glad I didn't hold my breath on much more mainline flying in the second phase of lga expansion...
WOW! I didn't take the time to add up DAL vs DCI, but that looks like 90% RJs. If you read the release most pilots will read on the DeltaNet homepage, there is no indication this is DCI flying. Do you guys think the average DAL pilot even knows or cares that nearly all of our long-touted LGA expansion will not be flown by us?
220 Flight Segments
202 or 92% Regional
18 or 8% Mainline
By type:
14 MD88 (MIA, NAS, RSW)
4 B737 (DEN)
E145 110 (ALB, BGR, BTV, CAE, CHO, CLE, GSO, GSP, IAD, ILM, MHT, ORF, PHL, RIC, ROA, SDF, SYR, YHZ, YOW, YUL)
CRJ700 38 (BNA, BTV, CLT, MYR, PIT, RDU, ROC, STL, SYR)
E170/175 30 (DFW, IAH, IND, JAX, MCI, MKE, PIT)
CRJ900 22 (BUF, MKE, PIT)
CPJ 2 (RIC)
A couple of observations.
1. If I'm not mistaken, when SWA acquired AirTran and announced new service it was all on a 717 or 737. I didn't see the words CRJ, ERJ, E170, E175, CRJ700 or CRJ900 anywhere. Could that be because of their scope clause?
2. Remember as you read the LGA expansion to say: "Delta wants out of the RJ business" and "The LGA slot swap will increase mainline flying".
3. And remember to say- "shut up scope chickens."
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12-18-2011, 04:59 AM
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WOW! I didn't take the time to add up DAL vs DCI, but that looks like 90% RJs. If you read the release most pilots will read on the DeltaNet homepage, there is no indication this is DCI flying. Do you guys think the average DAL pilot even knows or cares that nearly all of our long-touted LGA expansion will not be flown by us?
I liked the NY Times idea, but I also agree there is zero chance ALPA would put that together. What about a well-placed email to the AP? They love to do anti-airline articles, and I bet the USA Today travel section would be a great place for an RJ expose to show up. You know, less experienced pilots, different rest rules, cost saving measures by the company that detract from safety, etc.
The public also doesn't like to be fooled, so maybe explaining connection flying to them would help them understand how little chance they have of flying on the carrier where they bought their ticket. We don't want to "cut off our nose to spite our face," but I'm starting to think there is no limit to the amount of outsourcing the company will use and ALPA will support. We have to take a stand at some point...maybe getting the public on our side would help? If they vote with their feet and fly JB and SWA instead, we are the ones who get hurt in the long run. Not the management guys who will have invested their bonuses and moved to another company by that point.
I liked the NY Times idea, but I also agree there is zero chance ALPA would put that together. What about a well-placed email to the AP? They love to do anti-airline articles, and I bet the USA Today travel section would be a great place for an RJ expose to show up. You know, less experienced pilots, different rest rules, cost saving measures by the company that detract from safety, etc.
The public also doesn't like to be fooled, so maybe explaining connection flying to them would help them understand how little chance they have of flying on the carrier where they bought their ticket. We don't want to "cut off our nose to spite our face," but I'm starting to think there is no limit to the amount of outsourcing the company will use and ALPA will support. We have to take a stand at some point...maybe getting the public on our side would help? If they vote with their feet and fly JB and SWA instead, we are the ones who get hurt in the long run. Not the management guys who will have invested their bonuses and moved to another company by that point.
Carl
12-18-2011, 05:10 AM
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I don't know if I counted right but I see this:
220 Flight Segments
202 or 92% Regional
18 or 8% Mainline
By type:
14 MD88 (MIA, NAS, RSW)
4 B737 (DEN)
E145 110 (ALB, BGR, BTV, CAE, CHO, CLE, GSO, GSP, IAD, ILM, MHT, ORF, PHL, RIC, ROA, SDF, SYR, YHZ, YOW, YUL)
CRJ700 38 (BNA, BTV, CLT, MYR, PIT, RDU, ROC, STL, SYR)
E170/175 30 (DFW, IAH, IND, JAX, MCI, MKE, PIT)
CRJ900 22 (BUF, MKE, PIT)
CPJ 2 (RIC)
A couple of observations.
1. If I'm not mistaken, when SWA acquired AirTran and announced new service it was all on a 717 or 737. I didn't see the words CRJ, ERJ, E170, E175, CRJ700 or CRJ900 anywhere. Could that be because of their scope clause?
2. Remember as you read the LGA expansion to say: "Delta wants out of the RJ business" and "The LGA slot swap will increase mainline flying".
3. And remember to say- "shut up scope chickens."
220 Flight Segments
202 or 92% Regional
18 or 8% Mainline
By type:
14 MD88 (MIA, NAS, RSW)
4 B737 (DEN)
E145 110 (ALB, BGR, BTV, CAE, CHO, CLE, GSO, GSP, IAD, ILM, MHT, ORF, PHL, RIC, ROA, SDF, SYR, YHZ, YOW, YUL)
CRJ700 38 (BNA, BTV, CLT, MYR, PIT, RDU, ROC, STL, SYR)
E170/175 30 (DFW, IAH, IND, JAX, MCI, MKE, PIT)
CRJ900 22 (BUF, MKE, PIT)
CPJ 2 (RIC)
A couple of observations.
1. If I'm not mistaken, when SWA acquired AirTran and announced new service it was all on a 717 or 737. I didn't see the words CRJ, ERJ, E170, E175, CRJ700 or CRJ900 anywhere. Could that be because of their scope clause?
2. Remember as you read the LGA expansion to say: "Delta wants out of the RJ business" and "The LGA slot swap will increase mainline flying".
3. And remember to say- "shut up scope chickens."
- DALPA pushed really hard for us to call congress to make this 92%/8% RJ growth spurt a reality. Why would DALPA do that?...Because the belief that "RJ's are good for Delta" is still alive and well among the MEC.
- DALPA just got through saying: "We heard you loud and clear" with regard to our survey results. Don't you just love the way DALPA listens?
Carl
12-18-2011, 05:17 AM
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it is:
54% E145
18% CRJ 700
10% CRJ 900
14% EMB 170/175
2% B737
6% M88
Now that's by departure, and we don't get paid by departure but by block hour. I haven't done the analysis for that, but the 1 737 leg to DEN and back sure pays more than a LGA-PHL-LGA flight. The kid is sick today, so don't know if I can get it done, but the block hour is more accurate way to compare. I'm sure that DCI will still be a high percentage than mainline tho.
12-18-2011, 05:30 AM
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Could someone please moderate post 83547.
12-18-2011, 05:49 AM
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A few more observations:
- DALPA pushed really hard for us to call congress to make this 92%/8% RJ growth spurt a reality. Why would DALPA do that?...Because the belief that "RJ's are good for Delta" is still alive and well among the MEC.
- DALPA just got through saying: "We heard you loud and clear" with regard to our survey results. Don't you just love the way DALPA listens?
Carl
- DALPA pushed really hard for us to call congress to make this 92%/8% RJ growth spurt a reality. Why would DALPA do that?...Because the belief that "RJ's are good for Delta" is still alive and well among the MEC.
- DALPA just got through saying: "We heard you loud and clear" with regard to our survey results. Don't you just love the way DALPA listens?
Carl
12-18-2011, 05:57 AM
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12-18-2011, 05:59 AM
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I think he's more worried about the Terroirst finding out where we layover...in Australia...because, after all, it is a known Terrorist haven.
;^)
But I will go back and remove it...since I go there once in a while, I don't want any Terrorists waiting under my bed!
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But I will go back and remove it...since I go there once in a while, I don't want any Terrorists waiting under my bed!
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