Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
#8341
I think the fear of lawsuits is a heck of a deterrent to furloughing until of course we hit SOC.
So in the interim, let me be very clear. I heard from a source in a corner office on the 4th floor in Atlanta that they will be shifting flying around such that they furlough a disproportinate number of DAL-N pilots. So just threaten those lawsuits for as long as possible please, we here on the bottom, appreciate it.
Now, in the interim, can I get some good gouge on the DC-9, the plane that beyond belief outlived NWA and probably will outlive the 747-400 , and/or gouge from I guess any of the DCIs or those Cessna 208 Caravans flying Atlanta-Athens. Ugh... I always hated those underpowered chinsy ice collectors, its a shame it looks like a good airplane like the C172.
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I'm not saying this with any pride whatsoever, but I kind of have found that sometimes airliners.net's (the seedy underground world of airline porn) has a thread with news I hadn't seen elsewhere. Usually the title is good enough, sometimes if its DAL related I'll read through it to learn more because there are some DAL people who evidently spill too much on there much to the chagrin of revenue management. But here is a new thread on DAL & the DC-9. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/4445285/ Might not have any info, but for some it might be interesting.
So in the interim, let me be very clear. I heard from a source in a corner office on the 4th floor in Atlanta that they will be shifting flying around such that they furlough a disproportinate number of DAL-N pilots. So just threaten those lawsuits for as long as possible please, we here on the bottom, appreciate it.
Now, in the interim, can I get some good gouge on the DC-9, the plane that beyond belief outlived NWA and probably will outlive the 747-400 , and/or gouge from I guess any of the DCIs or those Cessna 208 Caravans flying Atlanta-Athens. Ugh... I always hated those underpowered chinsy ice collectors, its a shame it looks like a good airplane like the C172.
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I'm not saying this with any pride whatsoever, but I kind of have found that sometimes airliners.net's (the seedy underground world of airline porn) has a thread with news I hadn't seen elsewhere. Usually the title is good enough, sometimes if its DAL related I'll read through it to learn more because there are some DAL people who evidently spill too much on there much to the chagrin of revenue management. But here is a new thread on DAL & the DC-9. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo....main/4445285/ Might not have any info, but for some it might be interesting.
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#8342
I think the fear of lawsuits is a heck of a deterrent to furloughing until of course we hit SOC.
So in the interim, let me be very clear. I heard from a source in a corner office on the 4th floor in Atlanta that they will be shifting flying around such that they furlough a disproportinate number of DAL-N pilots. So just threaten those lawsuits for as long as possible please, we here on the bottom, appreciate it. .
So in the interim, let me be very clear. I heard from a source in a corner office on the 4th floor in Atlanta that they will be shifting flying around such that they furlough a disproportinate number of DAL-N pilots. So just threaten those lawsuits for as long as possible please, we here on the bottom, appreciate it. .
#8343
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: LAX 350 A
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Just got back from LIH and heading to HNL manana. Someone's got to do it
#8344
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Posts: 296
Officially no furloughs, but this time I do not buy it.
I think we will see 100-200 this fall. I know if the company can wiggle their way in to a pre SOC AE they will so they can see where these junior folks will be sitting. Also, if they cannot do that, they can shift flying from NWA to DAL which they are doing to balance them out and furlough in order of the Arbitrated list using the pre-merger lists. In effect it can be done!
I do not expect to hear much from the Company or the union prior to the close of the PERPS. In effect a long month for many.
I think we will see 100-200 this fall. I know if the company can wiggle their way in to a pre SOC AE they will so they can see where these junior folks will be sitting. Also, if they cannot do that, they can shift flying from NWA to DAL which they are doing to balance them out and furlough in order of the Arbitrated list using the pre-merger lists. In effect it can be done!
I do not expect to hear much from the Company or the union prior to the close of the PERPS. In effect a long month for many.
#8346
What does that mean?
I know you're just thinking out loud, but man that was an unbelievably stupid thing for you to have voiced.
Carl
#8347
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,037
Well, we are in this together now. A week ago it was anticipated 747 displacements and now it is anticipated 767 displacements. On Virginia Avenue they aren't thinking North or South, they are matching capacity to demand and revenue. In their opinion, our job is to complete the mission, where ever it happens to be on whatever they need to fly. They expect us to do that job and have neither the inclination to hear our concerns about out personal problems, nor a sympathetic ear.
We made the deal and we voted on it. It is what it is. Time for us to get up at the crack of dawn, get the airplane ready to go and fly the thing. Here comes the real work of the merger.
We made the deal and we voted on it. It is what it is. Time for us to get up at the crack of dawn, get the airplane ready to go and fly the thing. Here comes the real work of the merger.
#8348
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: MD88A
Posts: 310
[quote=alfaromeo;627475]
If they post some big combined bid prior to SOC and then SOC is delayed, they could have gigantic problems with training and conversion. Whatever upside might result from a combined bid would be overshadowed by the tremendous risks involved./quote]
The company will not offer the joint AE unless then are confident that SOC will occur as stated...when you see a combines AE, SOC is not far behind.
If they post some big combined bid prior to SOC and then SOC is delayed, they could have gigantic problems with training and conversion. Whatever upside might result from a combined bid would be overshadowed by the tremendous risks involved./quote]
The company will not offer the joint AE unless then are confident that SOC will occur as stated...when you see a combines AE, SOC is not far behind.
#8349
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,539
[quote=sevenfiveseven;627851]
Yeah, certain just like Nairobi...
If they post some big combined bid prior to SOC and then SOC is delayed, they could have gigantic problems with training and conversion. Whatever upside might result from a combined bid would be overshadowed by the tremendous risks involved./quote]
The company will not offer the joint AE unless then are confident that SOC will occur as stated...when you see a combines AE, SOC is not far behind.
The company will not offer the joint AE unless then are confident that SOC will occur as stated...when you see a combines AE, SOC is not far behind.
#8350
Now, in the interim, can I get some good gouge on the DC-9, the plane that beyond belief outlived NWA and probably will outlive the 747-400 , and/or gouge from I guess any of the DCIs or those Cessna 208 Caravans flying Atlanta-Athens. Ugh... I always hated those underpowered chinsy ice collectors, its a shame it looks like a good airplane like the C172.
...
I'm not saying this with any pride whatsoever, but I kind of have found that sometimes airliners.net's (the seedy underground world of airline porn) has a thread with news I hadn't seen elsewhere. Usually the title is good enough, sometimes if its DAL related I'll read through it to learn more because there are some DAL people who evidently spill too much on there much to the chagrin of revenue management. But here is a new thread on DAL & the DC-9. When Will Delta Retire The DC9's? — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net Might not have any info, but for some it might be interesting.
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I'm not saying this with any pride whatsoever, but I kind of have found that sometimes airliners.net's (the seedy underground world of airline porn) has a thread with news I hadn't seen elsewhere. Usually the title is good enough, sometimes if its DAL related I'll read through it to learn more because there are some DAL people who evidently spill too much on there much to the chagrin of revenue management. But here is a new thread on DAL & the DC-9. When Will Delta Retire The DC9's? — Civil Aviation Forum | Airliners.net Might not have any info, but for some it might be interesting.
The DC-9 has been a running gag at Airliners.net since the thing was started. The DC-9s will get parked when they reach their aft bulkhead cycle limit....102,000 cycles. Alot of the -30s, and ALL of the -40s and -50s have YEARS left to go until they even get close to their cycle limit.
The LAST cycle will be a revenue flight, and then they'll ferry it, unpressurized, to the scrap yard. Unless they do the aft bulkhead mod, which, if I was at the bottom of the list, I'd certainly be praying that they do. I'd certainly rather be a DC-9 FO at DAL than a E-175 Captain at CPZ.
Word is that DAL Engineering is moving from ATL, into the facilities at MSP, thus the push to renovate buildings B and C (just announced, BTW).
%70 N1. That's the only power setting you need to know on the DC-9. Just roll it downhill, let the clutch out, fly a 300 heading, and you're on the way to Lancing or Sioux Falls.
Honestly guys...RJ wonders might NEED that FMS, GPS, moving maps and EGPWS to keep it out of the weeds, but hey, this is the "Big D", right? Like Super said, man up already.
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