Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-14-2011, 05:28 PM
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This is what we're up against on C2012: The stench of complacency--and the long-established Delta reticence to getting salty, if necessary, to make sure we're taking care of ourselves and not letting the company off the hook.
Oh, and before you foist any more kool-aid on us, let me return the favor and offer you an unsolicited lecture: The clothes weren't invisible--the emperor was naked.
Oh, and before you foist any more kool-aid on us, let me return the favor and offer you an unsolicited lecture: The clothes weren't invisible--the emperor was naked.
Let me offer you an unsolicited lecture: there is no emperor. There is a large airline corporation and a 12,000 strong pilot group. If we paint ourselves as you would have us paint ourselves, we'll come across as a bunch of whiny *****es.
Last edited by buzzpat; 12-14-2011 at 05:56 PM. Reason: Not worth it.
12-14-2011, 05:30 PM
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Uh......if most reserves aren't flying, whycum I just did a 73B out-of-base reserve trip to BOG ? Oh wait, nevermind, nuthin' to see here.........
12-14-2011, 05:37 PM
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Whereas today:
Wednesdays should hereafter be known as "humpday" and those under utilized, under paid and under employed reserve pilots will avail themselves to searching to the edge of the internet for delicious honeys to ponder and distract us as our career slowly circles the porcelain.
So moved by the Right Reverend, Bucking Bar, Esq. Do I have a second?
Twins are not required, but encouraged none the less:
- SWA gets perfect scope and a pile of new efficient jets
- American gets EFB's
- and we get nothing but a CEO who wants a pump and dump consolidation crapsandwich deal
- and Fridays are known for hooning on APC with little Mod interference
Wednesdays should hereafter be known as "humpday" and those under utilized, under paid and under employed reserve pilots will avail themselves to searching to the edge of the internet for delicious honeys to ponder and distract us as our career slowly circles the porcelain.
So moved by the Right Reverend, Bucking Bar, Esq. Do I have a second?
Twins are not required, but encouraged none the less:
Carl
12-14-2011, 05:40 PM
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Delta wants to sell more than just flights | ajc.com
Delta wants to sell more than just flights
By Kelly Yamanouchi
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to be just an airline anymore.
It also envisions itself as a retailer, selling extra services for flights through a virtual cash register at your airplane seat and a digital storefront when you book a flight on the airline's website.
What's more, the carrier sees a big opportunity to sell advertising targeting the captive audience of travelers on planes.
For passengers, that could mean an onslaught of sales pitches and advertising throughout the travel experience.
Delta wants to sell more than just flights
By Kelly Yamanouchi
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to be just an airline anymore.
It also envisions itself as a retailer, selling extra services for flights through a virtual cash register at your airplane seat and a digital storefront when you book a flight on the airline's website.
What's more, the carrier sees a big opportunity to sell advertising targeting the captive audience of travelers on planes.
For passengers, that could mean an onslaught of sales pitches and advertising throughout the travel experience.
12-14-2011, 05:40 PM
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Let me offer you an unsolicited lecture: there is no emperor. There is a large airline corporation and a 12,000 strong pilot group. If we paint ourselves as you would have us paint ourselves, we'll come across as a bunch of whiny *****es. Wake up tomorrow and get over yourself.
It's just a hunch (well, it's more than that), but I'm thinking management will not bargain fairly or honestly unless we exhibit the
1) ability; and
2) willingness
to stick up for ourselves.
Do you think we'll get what we're worth by relying on the company's benevolent paternalism? Do you rely on them to tell you what you're worth? Have you ever voted "no?" If not...why not? Do you think Delta pilots have always negotiated the best possible deal?
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12-14-2011, 05:54 PM
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You, sir, are enabling management to save 2.99 each month on internet porn. Reading your posts provides a suitable substitute with equivalent results.
It's just a hunch, but I'm thinking management will not bargain fairly or honestly unless we exhibit the
1) ability; and
2) willingness
to stick up for ourselves.
Do you think we'll get what we're worth by relying on the company's benevolent paternalism? Do you rely on them to tell you what you're worth?
It's just a hunch, but I'm thinking management will not bargain fairly or honestly unless we exhibit the
1) ability; and
2) willingness
to stick up for ourselves.
Do you think we'll get what we're worth by relying on the company's benevolent paternalism? Do you rely on them to tell you what you're worth?
Let's get to the point where Management wants something and go from there. RA is a smart guy. It is a negotiation, give and take. Of course we have given up way too much. SO start the bar that much higher. DPA will not do any better than ALPA. Different union, same management.
So, actually occupy the rest seat and give it a rest.
12-14-2011, 05:57 PM
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12-14-2011, 06:03 PM
Happy to be here
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12-14-2011, 06:04 PM
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You, sir, are enabling management to save 2.99 each month on internet porn. Reading your posts provides a suitable substitute with equivalent results.
It's just a hunch (well, it's more than that), but I'm thinking management will not bargain fairly or honestly unless we exhibit the
1) ability; and
2) willingness
to stick up for ourselves.
Do you think we'll get what we're worth by relying on the company's benevolent paternalism? Do you rely on them to tell you what you're worth? Have you ever voted "no?" If not...why not? Do you think Delta pilots have always negotiated the best possible deal?
It's just a hunch (well, it's more than that), but I'm thinking management will not bargain fairly or honestly unless we exhibit the
1) ability; and
2) willingness
to stick up for ourselves.
Do you think we'll get what we're worth by relying on the company's benevolent paternalism? Do you rely on them to tell you what you're worth? Have you ever voted "no?" If not...why not? Do you think Delta pilots have always negotiated the best possible deal?
Have I voted "no"? I almost always vote "no" because it means I'm usually right. I like being right...and I like being paid for the work and commitment I contribute to the company. Which is significant and for which I am very proud. Doesn't mean I think that 9/11 was an inside job or that we are the 99% getting screwed by the 1%.
What I object to is the nature of your posts. Negative, angry and generally counter-productive. Step up and be part of the solution. Your bumming us all out.....and you're generally uninformed.
12-14-2011, 06:04 PM
Sho me da money!
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So you paid for flight training and DELTA did not give you a job and you were screwed? Did DELTA guarantee you a job or an interview? If you failed the interview if so why? and what have you done to better yourself? Did you think if you paid someone money for training you were entitled to a job?
You did not wright very much other than a complaint, so it leaves you open to a lot of questions. I am willing to listen and perhaps you can prove to me that DELTA owes you something. I am reasonable.
You did not wright very much other than a complaint, so it leaves you open to a lot of questions. I am willing to listen and perhaps you can prove to me that DELTA owes you something. I am reasonable.
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