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Old 12-14-2011, 02:03 PM
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Y'all are smokin crack

Originally Posted by acl65pilot
That is what I see as a good possibility as well.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat
I'm constantly...blah..blah...complain...whine...indus try.
Why are you so angry? Every post of yours is full of rage. Relax. Chill. Have a beer.

Guarantee you'll live longer.

There isn't a damn thing your complaining is going to change.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Great start, but it does not help with the work rule changes, which are just as important, if not more so.

6.5 hours pay per calendar day is a great place to start. No more 3 day trips paying 10:30 hours.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Great start, but it does not help with the work rule changes, which are just as important, if not more so.
You are correct.

It would be terms for an extension, NOT a Section 6.
Leaving the work rules alone is a part of how an extension provides stability and why the company would offer it in lieu of a full rewrite.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:14 PM
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Shiz 21 mil a percent now. The line is non linear.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Shiz 21 mil a percent now. The line is non linear.
I know it would be larger each percent... basic concept still holds.

Math redone.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
You are correct.

It would be terms for an extension, NOT a Section 6.
Leaving the work rules alone is a part of how an extension provides stability and why the company would offer it in lieu of a full rewrite.
Got it about the extension...6 months max.

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Old 12-14-2011, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Y'all are smokin crack
Not really. Take AMR out of it for a second. DFW is the biggest domestic growth market in the country. We were fools to leave it. Wright Amendment goes away in 2014. We are filling up our jet out of Mia. Both make a ton of sense if the dominoes fall correctly. (with or without a fragmentation of AMR)

Delta needs a hub in the South Central part of the us.

Before AMR's filing the DFW gates (all of em) are up for new leases and AMR is going to shrink.

If we opted to forgo DFW and or MIA long term it would be to the companies detriment.


Airlines like ALK would also fit to make the hub and spoke work out of these cities.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
I know it would be larger each percent... basic concept still holds.

Math redone.
It's a sound idea but the reality is even for an extension work rules would need to be upped and the min day one pay would need to be exponentially higher for it to pass. I think RA may try for 10% or less but knows it will need to be more.

I too will be floored to make it to April without an offer that is just good enough to send to memrat.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Go it about the extension...6 months max.
Ok.

How does the company benefit from only 6 months more of stability when they will get 18-30 months of "status quo" out of the Section 6 process?

Keep in mind we merged MX stores systems a few months ago and just resolved the last union integration issues a week ago from a merger that occurred almost 4 year ago.....

You have to make it worth it for everybody involved, and unfortunately the company holds 99% of the cards.

If we as a pilot group entertain an extension that is substandard then I agree we should go for the full Section 6 and skip an interim agreement.
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