Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-09-2011, 10:54 AM
Da Hudge
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You should have a read of the popular science article with the voice recorder transcript. Nothing like an article written by a so called expert that actually has no clue what they are talking about. You would think they would consult someone with experience in an Airbus to help out, but that would be asking to much responsibility in journalism.
However- they had that airplane pitched up to 18 degrees at FL370. The senior FO deep stalled the crap out of that airplane and held it in it. All instruments were back to functioning normally the last 15,000 feet or so of their descent. Only when they were descending through 2000 feet at 40 degrees of AOA and below 100 knots of indicated airspeed did the captain recognize that the FO was holding full back stick the whole time. He let go and they started to recover, but it was too late and they pancaked in at almost 10,000 feet per minute.
However- they had that airplane pitched up to 18 degrees at FL370. The senior FO deep stalled the crap out of that airplane and held it in it. All instruments were back to functioning normally the last 15,000 feet or so of their descent. Only when they were descending through 2000 feet at 40 degrees of AOA and below 100 knots of indicated airspeed did the captain recognize that the FO was holding full back stick the whole time. He let go and they started to recover, but it was too late and they pancaked in at almost 10,000 feet per minute.
12-09-2011, 10:58 AM
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12-09-2011, 11:29 AM
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12-09-2011, 12:53 PM
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You should have a read of the popular science article with the voice recorder transcript. Nothing like an article written by a so called expert that actually has no clue what they are talking about. You would think they would consult someone with experience in an Airbus to help out, but that would be asking to much responsibility in journalism.
However- they had that airplane pitched up to 18 degrees at FL370. The senior FO deep stalled the crap out of that airplane and held it in it. All instruments were back to functioning normally the last 15,000 feet or so of their descent. Only when they were descending through 2000 feet at 40 degrees of AOA and below 100 knots of indicated airspeed did the captain recognize that the FO was holding full back stick the whole time. He let go and they started to recover, but it was too late and they pancaked in at almost 10,000 feet per minute.
However- they had that airplane pitched up to 18 degrees at FL370. The senior FO deep stalled the crap out of that airplane and held it in it. All instruments were back to functioning normally the last 15,000 feet or so of their descent. Only when they were descending through 2000 feet at 40 degrees of AOA and below 100 knots of indicated airspeed did the captain recognize that the FO was holding full back stick the whole time. He let go and they started to recover, but it was too late and they pancaked in at almost 10,000 feet per minute.
Carl
12-09-2011, 01:02 PM
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I had a 23:54 layover from 30 Nov. to 01 Dec. but that doesn't matter now. I'm going to wait until tonight to make sure I get most of tomorrow off! That is, if I'm correct.
It wouldn't be the first time I've been "educated" otherwise!!
I'll let you know how it goes....
Denny
That is, if I'm correct. It wouldn't be the first time I've been "educated" otherwise!!I'll let you know how it goes....
Denny
12-09-2011, 01:10 PM
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CVG and the city of Cincinnati went down this same path with Delta. Look what happened there. Now all the news stories in Cincinnati are about "where did all our air service go." Maybe someone should send the MSP Chamber of Commerce the address of the Cincinnati Chamber of Commerce and they could get some lessons learned. Support your hub or it will go away.
12-09-2011, 01:15 PM
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Does anybody tip the laundry people in Narita?
12-09-2011, 01:28 PM
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12-09-2011, 01:40 PM
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Carl
12-09-2011, 02:15 PM
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They consider it an insult because work is so revered in Japan. The fact that you would come to their establishment is considered an honor for them. Tipping can come off as you thinking they don't make enough money or that their business needs a little extra help. They charge what they think is a fair price for everything. I actually wish we could adopt that in the US, because I personally hate tipping. Just charge me what the dinner costs you to make plus a nice profit, and show me where to sign the check! After I get my frickin reading glasses on that is...
Carl
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I completely agree! Has anyone else noticed that nearly everyone expects a tip these days. I just took my kids to get some ice cream the other day and I noticed a tip jar in front of the register. Why the hell would I tip you for selling me ice cream! I have even seen a tip jar at some fast food restaurants.
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