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Old 12-08-2011, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin404
Sim instructors,

Does Delta use line pilots for sim instructors or do they hire off the street for the school house? I've looked on the Delta.com site and did not see a link for sim instructors.

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Some line pilots, but the bulk (from what I've seen - 90% or so) are retired DL pilots working for DGS. Never seen a guy hired off the street.
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kamsman
So we're taking over the leases on 2 of GOL's 767..I assume this means we now will be flying them also?
2nd question..the slot swap fetched a pretty penny..Does Delta and US Airways get this $$ or does the gov't?
I would think Delta would lease these "birds" back to GOL. Then GOL will use their lower paid employees/pilots to fly some joint routes.

I cant seem to get the exact figures but Gol pilots do not make a lot of money and they work a whole lot more than their US counterparts.

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Old 12-08-2011, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
Some line pilots, but the bulk (from what I've seen - 90% or so) are retired DL pilots working for DGS. Never seen a guy hired off the street.

We have some "ground" instructors that were hired off the street about five years ago. They are DGS, and can teach the 100's and 200's.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
No, they do and have for some time. It was pilots that interviewed with the 737 type, and no time in it, who said they had no interest in SWA that made them scratch their heads.
They asked me about the type with no time. I was a straight shooter. Told them I interviewed with SWA in early '05 when Delta had tons of pilots on the street. Got turned down. Hence... 737 type with no time. Ended up being a waste of money.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
Some line pilots, but the bulk (from what I've seen - 90% or so) are retired DL pilots working for DGS. Never seen a guy hired off the street.
On the north side there were some non-retired NW guys teaching the sims.

Those are the only ones I've ever seen.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
On the north side there were some non-retired NW guys teaching the sims.

Those are the only ones I've ever seen.
One would think getting a reasonable, significantly improved position in C2012 in this area is a priority. I guess we'll see when we see the opener.








We will see the opener, won't we?
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
I would think Delta would lease these "birds" back to GOL. Then GOL will use their lower paid employees/pilots to fly some joint routes.

I cant seem to get the exact figures but Gol pilots do not make a lot of money and they work a whole lot more than their US counterparts.

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After reading the latest AWST update on Latin America, I'd say we absolutely needed a partner down there. However, it's unfortunate that our management and union has groomed us to be suspicious, looking for the next way they will try to take away our flying. Could they do something like: pax buys delta.com ticket and flies:

1- DCI RJ from anywhere to ATL
2- GOL 767 from ATL to Sao Paulo
3- GOL 737 to anywhere

I'm just asking...Delta pax with 3 legs and zero on a Delta airplane? If this is contractually possible, I wouldn't be surprised to see a big GOL widebody order sometime in the future. And then ALPA will tell us that Anywhere, US to Anywhere, SA was an unprofitable market for us...we needed all that feed.
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
On the command time, maybe. In a two man op, the Capt always signs for the jet and that is what many of these Asian carriers see as PIC time. For a three man op, you probably could get away with it for the two hrs that the Capt is no rest, but not when he is occupying his seat. Of course SIC all of the time

Sorry ACL,

If you are typed in the aircraft and sole manipulator of the controls, you are legal to log in command time. You are not the "captain of record."
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Old 12-08-2011, 09:40 AM
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Sorry ACL,

If you are typed in the aircraft and sole manipulator of the controls, you are legal to log in command time. You are not the "captain of record."
What you are pushing is typically frowned upon in an interview setting. When Delta (and every other big time gig that I know of) interviews you, they only want "commander of record" time to be counted toward your PIC time. A quick way to not get hired is to log sole manipulator time.
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Originally Posted by scambo1
If you are typed in the aircraft and sole manipulator of the controls, you are legal to log in command time. You are not the "captain of record."
Doesn't matter if I'm legal to do it - if it doesn't pass an employer's sniff test, it doesn't go in my logbook. And logging PIC while acting in the capacity as an SIC doesn't fly with any employer I'd like to work for.
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