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Old 11-28-2011, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Hey Bill; Did that Rep win his election?
2 out of 3 did, but you are right, the main one did not. All of them, though, had that same attitude. Again, mouth agape was the common face that day.
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Old 11-28-2011, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Carl;
The point was that he has been talking about a particular rep making these statements and I wanted him to admit that this person did not get reelected. Ergo, the person he had an issue with did not get to keep his seat.
All 3 of them had that attitude, managing expectations. 1 now is gone. One still there asked me about getting a SWA wage increase, "What would Wall Street think?". I responded "I don't care!"
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Old 11-28-2011, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Why would that matter? What effect does an LEC rep have on the unelected MEC permanent bureaucracy?

Carl
Exactly. The MEC would never allow itself to be displaced by a grassroots movement. Too much FPL gravy there--just for starters. Not to mention the exorbitant expenses for MEC boondoggles on our dime.

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Old 11-28-2011, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
And yet everyone here wants us to be more like SW? Strange

How about this: DALPA negotiates SWA scope and pay plus, and leaves the snarky and irrelevant talking points to management.

seriously. I don't need to be insulted by "my" bargaining agent. If you can't, won't, or have too much at stake personally to address the issues at hand, just have the integrity to say so and step back.

Integrity. What was I thinking.
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Old 11-28-2011, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
The NMB just tossed out another "interference" claim.
This time its the Tech Ops guys and their vote against the IAM..

Delta Air Lines wins another dispute over union elections - Minneapolis / St. Paul Business Journal

Probably gonna be a clean sweep.
The unions are going to lose all these protests since they were all based on the same conduct.

Pilots and Dispatchers will be the only unions at Delta.
Considering the NWA history, Richard Anderson has got to be on cloud nine.
What history?

Anderson was appointed CEO of Northwest Airlines in February 2001. Simultaneously, Douglas Steenland was appointed president, and the two would effectively maintain a collaborative style of leadership. In October 2001 Anderson was appointed to the airline's board of directors.

As the newly appointed CEO, Anderson promised to continue his predecessor John Dasburg's focus upon product integrity and customer service. In February 2002 Anderson opened the new $1.2 billion midfield terminal at Detroit's Metro Airport, a project he had been instrumental in initiating in 1994. The new terminal offered enhanced capacity and faster connection times, enabling Northwest Airlines to expand its already extensive service to Asia and to increase its competitiveness among business travelers. With a state-of-theart architectural design, the new facility offered a change in image from the previous terminal and was intended to generate improved customer experiences.

At a company known for low employee morale, Anderson was committed to improving labor relations. In an interview broadcast on Minnesota Public Radio, Anderson extended an olive branch to Northwest labor unions, saying, "We have to go down the road today of building relationships, and you have to build those relationships while you're not in negotiations" (June 18, 2001). He thereafter undertook a nationwide tour of Northwest sites to establish rapport with employees and hear their concerns. In April 2001 he successfully negotiated a new contract with the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association, which represented 9,795 Northwest mechanics, cleaners, and custodians. This resolution ended a dispute that had begun in 1996.

After the September 11, 2001, terrorist hijacking of four jetliners, Anderson strove to balance his commitment to labor relations with the pressing need to reduce operating costs. In an interview with the New York Times , Anderson said of Northwest's stance, "In the last two and a half years, we've been the most aggressive in the industry in terms of getting out in front of the problems that we faced. It's necessitated some very hard decisions" (August 7, 2003). Anderson failed to get union support for wage and benefit concessions to the tune of $950 million by July 2003, which the company had claimed would be necessary to stave off bankruptcy proceedings. Despite this threat Northwest did not subsequently file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, as United and U.S. Airways had done in 2002. By restructuring in order to reduce operating costs, Anderson and Steenland eliminated 17,000 jobs from the payroll and cut $1.6 billion in annual expenses between 2001 and 2003.

Anderson emerged as an industry leader in talks with the federal government regarding financial assistance for the air-transportation industry in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. He helped develop tighter security mandates with the Federal Aviation Administration and was part of the Bush administration's Airport Safety Committee, which was formed in the days following the attacks. In these talks Anderson sought federal government assistance in the form of payment of increased security costs, reductions in the taxes and fees imposed on airlines, and increased flexibility for mergers and alliances in order to promote sales. His role as industry spokesperson was expanded when he was appointed chairman of the executive committee of the Air Transport Association in December 2002.

Anderson's dual attendance to operating performance and labor relations improved Northwest's public image and commercial performance. In July 2002 Standard & Poor's deemed Northwest to be one of the two most stable megacarriers in the industry; Anderson's leadership in the wake of the 9/11 attacks was an important factor in this judgment. Joel Denney, the analyst with the Minneapolis-based U.S. Bancorp, Piper Jaffray, praised the performances of both Anderson and the Continental Airlines CEO Gordon Bethune in turning around the fortunes of their respective companies. Speaking to the Minneapolis–St. Paul Business Journal in 2002, Denney said of the pair, "It's not that they knew the future, but they prepared for the unknown" (July 26, 2002).

As CEO of Northwest, Anderson was committed to involvement in the Minnesota and Michigan communities, serving on the boards of Hamline University of St. Paul, Minnesota, and Medtronic, among numerous other local and business organizations. In 2000 he was appointed first chairman of the Minnesota Business Leadership Network.
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Old 11-28-2011, 04:40 PM
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So...North West DIDN'T go bankrupt?? WT...F? From Above:

Anderson failed to get union support for wage and benefit concessions to the tune of $950 million by July 2003, which the company had claimed would be necessary to stave off bankruptcy proceedings. Despite this threat Northwest did not subsequently file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, as United and U.S. Airways had done in 2002.

Who wrote this, Anderson??
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Old 11-28-2011, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
So...North West DIDN'T go bankrupt?? WT...F? From Above:

Anderson failed to get union support for wage and benefit concessions to the tune of $950 million by July 2003, which the company had claimed would be necessary to stave off bankruptcy proceedings. Despite this threat Northwest did not subsequently file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, as United and U.S. Airways had done in 2002.

Who wrote this, Anderson??
BK was in 2005, he was gone in 2004.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:11 PM
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Yeah, that was my point. Nice they left that part out.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
I believe it because I heard stuff like that from a Northern LEC group in a Q&A myself. We were all mouth agape. It's like they already gave up, and this was before the survey. I hope they did get a mandate to go for more, we deserve it. We pay big bucks for representation, not for people who fold like a deck of cards. I hope our negotiators do their jobs, but don't come back with a weak TA, or they will, along with ALPA, face the consequences. It's just the truth. Show results or move over. Can you not agree with that? Don't bring us something weak for the TA.
With everyone carrying around smartphone technology...we need to get this kind of stuff on video!
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Amish Pilot
Is there some kind of airline meltdown going to happen tomorrow? I'm asking because, I am trying to figure out why crew scheduling has assigned 7 short calls out 11 guys on reserve for tomorrow in my category. They only require 2 and the next open trip is on Dec 22? Maybe they are just trying to make sure we all get five before the end of the month.......
Snow forecast in ATL. They did tomorrows short calls for ATLM88B at 11ish this morning as usual then called me at 1700 to give me a 0600 SC. Scheduler even said the were adding SC for the WX. Since ATL is such a big part of the operation, a potentially severe IROP (known locally as AM flurries) has the potential to derail the whole operation.
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