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11-20-2011, 09:17 AM
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But The MEC prioritized correctly. This is a great news to have this done BEFORE section six! The other LOA on the training stuff is pretty good too.
I think ALPA is figuring it out. At this rate, our section six talks should be have a short list of things. Get US the MONEY!
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But The MEC prioritized correctly. This is a great news to have this done BEFORE section six! The other LOA on the training stuff is pretty good too.
I think ALPA is figuring it out. At this rate, our section six talks should be have a short list of things. Get US the MONEY!
MC
Scope, Scope, and more Scope, get it with a 30% Plus raise and then we are making progress towards real improvements.
11-20-2011, 09:43 AM
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Any predictions on how junior NYC 320B is going to go? I'm trying to finalize my VD/MD card and I am trying to figure out if/where to rank NYC 320B.
11-20-2011, 09:50 AM
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11-20-2011, 09:52 AM
seeing the large hubs...
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My guess is around what the 73N goes in NYC, maybe more junior than that. The 320 will probably be split between LGA and JFK (prob more LGA than JFK) more so than the 737, and relatively senior people would be on reserve as the category gets started.
11-20-2011, 10:10 AM
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I would expect it to go extremely junior. I'm also very interested to see how junior NYC320A goes. I bet we will see some surprises in that category, like " I bid it, but I never thought I'd actually get it!"
11-20-2011, 10:22 AM
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Money without scope and Joint Venture recapture is protecting the top of the Sen List. The bottom third to half would be in very real danger if we dont get a handle on this.
Scope, Scope, and more Scope, get it with a 30% Plus raise and then we are making progress towards real improvements.
Scope, Scope, and more Scope, get it with a 30% Plus raise and then we are making progress towards real improvements.
11-20-2011, 10:35 AM
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I'll second that. Although, the widely held standard is within 2 hours of any of the bases we cover (which in LA would mean you could be 2 hours EAST of Ontario which could be "who knows how long to LAX) and in NYC I knew a lot of American and United guys who were on reserve with ACY (Atlantic City) being 2 hours from EWR and who knows how long to LGA or JFK.
In the case of Co-terminal operations the contract is very specific. Only the NYC airports allow a pilot to measure availability by his choice of airport. For the LA co-terminal operations all reserve availability is measured by report time to LAX. This is contained in section 23.
10. In pilot bases with co-terminal airports, a short call pilot’s availability will be determined
26 as follows:
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Co-Terminal Airports Airport Reserve Availability
Determined From
LAX, ONT, SNA, BUR, LGB from LAX
DFW, DAL from DFW
EWR, JFK, LGA from EWR, JFK or LGA
11-20-2011, 10:36 AM
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What do you think will happen to the west domiciles (LAX, SEA, SLC)? More senior by a bunch? status quo?
11-20-2011, 10:44 AM
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The idea of extra pay based on cost of living was discussed many times over the last 25 years. There are a lot of problems with the concept. At one point it was looking like we would get a stipend in NYC. The LAX crews however started screaming that on paper LA was more expensive place to live and they deserved more. In the end nothing was done and there was a very valid point brought up. The bases tend to self provide extra pay by the seniority in each base. NYC will be a very junior base always because of the cost issues. Pilots there enjoy greater seniority and pay then they would at other bases. Should a pilot flying as a Captain out of NYC get extra pay over a pilot of the same seniority who chooses to fly as a copilot out of ATL for less money because it is more desirable from a cost and location standpoint? Everyone will have a different answer to that question however NY has always been the junior base and paid extra.
11-20-2011, 10:52 AM
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When you fill out the card you can preference both percentage and number of where you want to end up. That is what you should focus on. Determine what your minimums are and make sure your card reflects this. How seniority will shake out in the base should not change what you put on your card.
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