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11-20-2011, 05:34 AM
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RE: 24/7 Rule
I had the same question last month regarding reserve. Called an apla contract guy and was told 24/7 does not apply to 7ER reserve duty pilots. I asked why and was informed that the long call 12 hr day negates the FAR requirement for 24/7 rest. I remember FNWA honored the 24/7 issue, I am not sure why its now void? So, a reserve pilot may be required to work reserve for 10 days straight without a 24/7 break.
I had the same question last month regarding reserve. Called an apla contract guy and was told 24/7 does not apply to 7ER reserve duty pilots. I asked why and was informed that the long call 12 hr day negates the FAR requirement for 24/7 rest. I remember FNWA honored the 24/7 issue, I am not sure why its now void? So, a reserve pilot may be required to work reserve for 10 days straight without a 24/7 break.
11-20-2011, 05:46 AM
seeing the large hubs...
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11-20-2011, 05:53 AM
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If that is true then the slow down is intentional, which is kind of what I thought. They can probably justify it in their minds as a cry for staffing help but the problem is you can look out there and see them not doing anything and know they're not working period. And I bet the company isn't buying off on it.
Because when all of the equipment is pulled off both planes for over half an hour while you watch it from the taxiway then they're not short staffed.
the best part is when they don't answer their phones and not even dispatch can get a hold of them.
Because when all of the equipment is pulled off both planes for over half an hour while you watch it from the taxiway then they're not short staffed.
the best part is when they don't answer their phones and not even dispatch can get a hold of them.
11-20-2011, 06:31 AM
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BWI is short gates due to ramp construction, and has the added problem of moving aircraft around from remote parking. That said, it's been a really bad operation for most of the past year, and has had its problems in the past. MGMT is well aware of the issues, but the issues remain. Plan/bid accordingly.
11-20-2011, 07:13 AM
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I was impressed with LOA #31 changes. In fact, the last several changes we have gotten outside of section 6 seem pretty decent, and my hat's off to the negotiating committee and scheduling/training teams. Seems like we got a lot, for not much. 12 mo lock after just being trained seems absolutely reasonable to me. I seem to recall I had a 2 year freeze in 2001, could be wrong. But it makes me think... why would the company give up something with such $$ value as OE recovery obligations, unless they thought they could make good use of a new-hire freeze in the near future?
Anyone got any rumors?
Anyone got any rumors?
11-20-2011, 07:16 AM
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I was impressed with LOA #31 changes. In fact, the last several changes we have gotten outside of section 6 seem pretty decent, and my hat's off to the negotiating committee and scheduling/training teams. Seems like we got a lot, for not much. 12 mo lock after just being trained seems absolutely reasonable to me. I seem to recall I had a 2 year freeze in 2001, could be wrong. But it makes me think... why would the company give up something with such $$ value as OE recovery obligations, unless they thought they could make good use of a new-hire freeze in the near future?
Anyone got any rumors?
Anyone got any rumors?
11-20-2011, 07:26 AM
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Deleted, old news.......
11-20-2011, 07:36 AM
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11-20-2011, 08:35 AM
seeing the large hubs...
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You may be right, just passing along what I have heard the few times I have been there recently. I will say it amazes me how lean we have become and how the operation still continues to run efficiently for the most part around our system. Regardless of the reasons, something should be done to get the BWI operation on par with the rest of our system.
The next time I was through there, the agent said there was a new manager (from BNA maybe). Anyway, we were still late, but not as late. ;-
11-20-2011, 08:45 AM
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I was impressed with LOA #31 changes. In fact, the last several changes we have gotten outside of section 6 seem pretty decent, and my hat's off to the negotiating committee and scheduling/training teams. Seems like we got a lot, for not much. 12 mo lock after just being trained seems absolutely reasonable to me. I seem to recall I had a 2 year freeze in 2001, could be wrong. But it makes me think... why would the company give up something with such $$ value as OE recovery obligations, unless they thought they could make good use of a new-hire freeze in the near future?
Anyone got any rumors?
Anyone got any rumors?
But The MEC prioritized correctly. This is a great news to have this done BEFORE section six! The other LOA on the training stuff is pretty good too.
I think ALPA is figuring it out. At this rate, our section six talks should be have a short list of things. Get US the MONEY!
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