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Old 11-18-2011, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I've been at EWR Penn and tried to get on the bus at 1am once.

I try to block out one thing that happened there.
Got done late one night in EWR and had to ride the train into Penn Station, then subway to Jackson Heights then bus to my pad near LGA. Nightmare as well. I would suggest a $500-$900 airport POS, craigslist is full of them up there.
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Old 11-18-2011, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Launchpad475
Toga's always Toga.
It's been awhile, but I seem to remember he was trying to perform an Alpha-floor demonstration. Something about it doesn't kick in below a certain altitude (obviously, he was unaware of this.) By the time they realized A-floor wasn't going to engage, I think he did hit TOGA, but they were already too low/slow/behind the power curve to recover.

The details are getting kinda hazy already though - I haven't spoken French since March.

Unrelated, but it sorta reminds me of that Etihad A-340 that went screaming off a taxiway with a bunch of mechanics and engineers on board. Someone forgot a small detail there about a certain CB, hydraulic system, and brake relationship which I can't even begin to recall.


I loved flying the Bus, but Boeing does take the cake with transparency of systems. For the most part, what you see is what you get. Not always so with the flying French computer.

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Old 11-18-2011, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
It's been awhile, but I seem to remember he was trying to perform an Alpha-floor demonstration. Something about it doesn't kick in below a certain altitude (obviously, he was unaware of this.) By the time they realized A-floor wasn't going to engage, I think he did hit TOGA, but they were already too low/slow/behind the power curve to recover.
That's correct. The test pilot was trying to demonstrate the stall prevention feature which includes Alpha Floor. Alpha Floor is when the logic pushes the thrust to max power and locks there so recovery occurs.

Unfortunately, the test pilot was some how unaware that this feature is unavailable below 100 ft AGL, because you don't want it to activate as you are in the flare. By the time he realized it, it was too late.
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
That's correct. The test pilot was trying to demonstrate the stall prevention feature which includes Alpha Floor. Alpha Floor is when the logic pushes the thrust to max power and locks there so recovery occurs.

Unfortunately, the test pilot was some how unaware that this feature is unavailable below 100 ft AGL, because you don't want it to activate as you are in the flare. By the time he realized it, it was too late.
shhhhhshhshshhhuuuuuusshhhhhh!!!!! There's a bid open! Airbus scary! You're not ever really in control!
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
That's correct. The test pilot was trying to demonstrate the stall prevention feature which includes Alpha Floor. Alpha Floor is when the logic pushes the thrust to max power and locks there so recovery occurs.

Unfortunately, the test pilot was some how unaware that this feature is unavailable below 100 ft AGL, because you don't want it to activate as you are in the flare. By the time he realized it, it was too late.
Hey Johnso,

Maybe urban legend, But I was told by several of the Tolouse types that there was a "fear-of-flying" class in the back of the a/c getting their graduation ride........pretty good legend anyway........btw, how's the munchkin ?

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Old 11-18-2011, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
One pilots gold is another pilots trash.
Ha ha, yes that is true, right Bar?

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Old 11-18-2011, 04:32 PM
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A reminder: Airbuses don't let you land in a crosswind:

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Old 11-18-2011, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
A reminder: Airbuses don't let you land in a crosswind:

Another great example of the Airbus bank angle limit function...also known as the wingtip.

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Old 11-18-2011, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Have fun t! I'm still basking in our World Series Champion St Louis Cardinals!
Same Here - couldn't imagine a better final 8 weeks in any season. I remember making an offhand remark to my wife that my baseball team is done.

With or without Pujols I think they're in good shape for a run at a repeat. I think Matheny is a great hire (kept most of the staff around for continuity plus they're a really great coaching staff) - hope he doesn't have two many growing pains.
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Old 11-18-2011, 05:32 PM
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[QUOTE=forgot to bid;1087305]I'm with Bar, end EWR as a part of NYC. If you look at the EWR flying it's not NYC flying, it's one leg out of EWR to ATL, 4 days in ATL, one leg back to EWR on the last flight. EWR should just be ATL flying, not NYC.

Because look at the trips, 4-day shows at 0515 and ends at 2010.


And the guys that live in PA and NJ should just jump on a flight out of PHL to ATL to start their trips? Like someone said these trips are rarely in open time.

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