Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-16-2011, 05:06 AM
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11-16-2011, 05:31 AM
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Yep, they need the delivery trucks because FedEx delivers packages, similar to the fact that Delta needs airplanes because we deliver people by air. All of the FedEx ground trucks where the EX is painted green are independent contractors and not employees of FedEX (the vast majority of delivery trucks).
I responded to Carl because he said:
I don't understand how you can include FDX in that statement because the pilots of FDX have zero impact on the brand as it pertains to the customer. I bet that 99.9% of their customers never even meet a FDX pilot. They do however meet the driver and that driver is most likely outsourced.
Now, it would be cool if a 727 could pull into my driveway for delivery's.
I responded to Carl because he said:
I don't understand how you can include FDX in that statement because the pilots of FDX have zero impact on the brand as it pertains to the customer. I bet that 99.9% of their customers never even meet a FDX pilot. They do however meet the driver and that driver is most likely outsourced.
Now, it would be cool if a 727 could pull into my driveway for delivery's.
After 30 years at FDX I'll have to say : you couldn't be more wrong about FDX pilot's customer impact and brand loyalty. Your opinion is shaped from the outside looking in......not always accurate. Caravan scope was a negotiated portion of the contract that was actually beneficial to both sides.
Besides, would you really want to fly a single-engine turboprop, single pilot in Cat II / icing conditions ? Me neither.
Anyway, the payload on the caravan is very small, and it allows FDX to serve very small markets that would otherwise not be served. The caravans only feed FDX mainline, and that rising tide actually does float the FDX pilot's boats.
Pay attention to Carl, his delivery may be too curt for your taste, but he's on target the vast majority of the time.
Rant over,
BG
11-16-2011, 05:41 AM
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Someday.. maybe not next year.. or the year after, or the year after.. or... but someday, something's got to give. You will not be able to hold management (and the shareholders) hostage like you have in the past. They are handcuffed, and that cannot continue. The question is whether you have the balls to strike, and whether that Karma will bite you in the buttinski when/if you do. After your display as of late, I can wager that you won't have much support from the rest of the industry. You might have a problem that you created right in your own backyard. Pass the popcorn.
11-16-2011, 05:45 AM
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I don't understand how you can include FDX in that statement because the pilots of FDX have zero impact on the brand as it pertains to the customer. I bet that 99.9% of their customers never even meet a FDX pilot. They do however meet the driver and that driver is most likely outsourced.
Now, it would be cool if a 727 could pull into my driveway for delivery's.
11-16-2011, 05:47 AM
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Hey 1234,
After 30 years at FDX I'll have to say : you couldn't be more wrong about FDX pilot's customer impact and brand loyalty. Your opinion is shaped from the outside looking in......not always accurate. Caravan scope was a negotiated portion of the contract that was actually beneficial to both sides.
Besides, would you really want to fly a single-engine turboprop, single pilot in Cat II / icing conditions ? Me neither.
Anyway, the payload on the caravan is very small, and it allows FDX to serve very small markets that would otherwise not be served. The caravans only feed FDX mainline, and that rising tide actually does float the FDX pilot's boats.
Pay attention to Carl, his delivery may be too curt for your taste, but he's on target the vast majority of the time.
Rant over,
BG
After 30 years at FDX I'll have to say : you couldn't be more wrong about FDX pilot's customer impact and brand loyalty. Your opinion is shaped from the outside looking in......not always accurate. Caravan scope was a negotiated portion of the contract that was actually beneficial to both sides.
Besides, would you really want to fly a single-engine turboprop, single pilot in Cat II / icing conditions ? Me neither.
Anyway, the payload on the caravan is very small, and it allows FDX to serve very small markets that would otherwise not be served. The caravans only feed FDX mainline, and that rising tide actually does float the FDX pilot's boats.
Pay attention to Carl, his delivery may be too curt for your taste, but he's on target the vast majority of the time.
Rant over,
BG
11-16-2011, 06:05 AM
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TSquare,
You know, when I said "...go kick your dog or something, you seem tense." I was just kidding
Delta investigates dog death; family says pug froze to death - Atlanta Business Chronicle
I agree that holding the line is going to be tough without some help from DAL and UCAL. Don't let me down, TSquare please, I beg.
You know, when I said "...go kick your dog or something, you seem tense." I was just kidding
Delta investigates dog death; family says pug froze to death - Atlanta Business Chronicle
I agree that holding the line is going to be tough without some help from DAL and UCAL. Don't let me down, TSquare please, I beg.
11-16-2011, 06:35 AM
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Stocks are going down today. But Republic (Rjet) is going up. Why would such a "dog" of a company with so much debt, liability and "dumb" management team be doing so well in the market today? One of the many reasons I do not trust the markets. Just watch. (fundamentally Rjet is garbage)
TEN
TEN
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11-16-2011, 06:36 AM
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TSquare,
You know, when I said "...go kick your dog or something, you seem tense." I was just kidding
Delta investigates dog death; family says pug froze to death - Atlanta Business Chronicle
I agree that holding the line is going to be tough without some help from DAL and UCAL. Don't let me down, TSquare please, I beg.
You know, when I said "...go kick your dog or something, you seem tense." I was just kidding
Delta investigates dog death; family says pug froze to death - Atlanta Business Chronicle
I agree that holding the line is going to be tough without some help from DAL and UCAL. Don't let me down, TSquare please, I beg.
11-16-2011, 06:45 AM
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A quacking fowl is not always a duck.....
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BG
11-16-2011, 07:20 AM
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Looks like we have a new Treasurer; the FO rep from CVG won.
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